From: bobstopper-AT-australispro.com.au
Subject: Re: abstract concepts as tools of authority
Date: Tue, 1 Oct 2002 14:20:32 +0800 (WST)


I wasn't (and I'm guessing Joacim wasn't either) referring to ignoring
actual social interactions. More ignoring the "ideas" that result in them.
For example, if nobody had any consideration of someone's race when they
make a judement racism wouldn't exist - race is a human concept and when
ignored ceases to result in problems such as racism. Class segregation could
conceivably be overcome in a similar manner - if citizens took no notice
of whether a person was a policeman or politician when they listen to their
professed authority on a subject government would cease to exist. If the
ruling class ceased to consider themselves worthy of substantial reward by
virtue of owning property (ie being a member of the ruling class) then 
class distinction on the basis of property would cease to exist. These
classes are empowered merely through being acknowledged as being innate. As
such I would probably say it is more accurate to fight for the abolishment
of classes altogether, than the rise and success of the working class.


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> We are the cement which are described with our concepts.  Reality has to be
> changed.  Igoring social relations won't change them.  You ignore the baton
> wielding police at your own peril.  Ignoring the boss system won't make "it"
> go away, except perhaps in your mind.  Thinking may be a nice way to travel;
> but it won't get you anywhere.  You can demonstrate disdain by ignoring the
> orders given by authority figures; but without the organized power of a
> class acting for itself to take, hold and operate society, you remain,
> perhaps in blissful, ignorance and most probably ignored yourself by real
> power.
> 
> from Mike B) using Jenny's computer.