Date: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 17:00:49 -0400
From: Mitchel Cohen <mitchelcohen-AT-mindspring.com>
Subject: Re: Spam Green Mitch-campaign [was: Re: (no subject)]


And you know what? I and many other greens agree with you totally.
The saving grace for Greens in the US is that we will never get elected 
because of the winner-take-all system here.
In the US, elections could be useful as a TACTIC, however, in getting into 
debates that articulate the radical vision of our social movements, and NOT 
the electoral aspirations for career or power-sharing.

The magazine put out by the Greens/GPUSA called Synthesis/Regeneration, 
regularly debates these sorts of issues. Your insights into the situation 
in Europe, as you begin describing below, would be VERY welcome. PLEASE!!!!

Mitchel

At 04:29 PM 10/1/2002, Ze Sprout wrote:
>At 16:10 -0400 01-10-2002, Mitchel Cohen wrote:
>...>Now, if you'd like to get into an INFORMED discussion about anarchy 
>and green politics, that might prove interesting. And, you might be 
>surprised but what you'd hear.
>
>any informed discussion about anarchy and green politics sadly involves 
>the experiences of green experiences in some european countries. well, 
>instead of being involved, they bend over so easily to be -with consent- 
>screwed by their liberal -european style- or social-democrat government 
>partners, because what counts in green politics is not the realisation of 
>any programme but their eagerness to be part of the power elite. i 
>witnessed this in local town politics as well as in national politics. and 
>i'm afraid the support for types like Nader in th u$a indicates this to be 
>inherent in green politics worldwide.
>
>any informed discussion about anarchy and green politics should stress 
>that as soon as the greens aim for participation in the electoral process 
>the (even very limited) anarchist elements of their politics are gone.
>
>Erik
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>
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