From: "Heather" <Heather-AT-teknopunx.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Volodya/Vladimir
Date: Fri, 7 Feb 2003 03:28:13 -0000



----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Coull" <coull2-AT-btinternet.com>
To: "anarchy-list" <anarchy-list-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>
Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 2:24 AM
Subject: RE: Volodya/Vladimir



Heather wrote


> If someone makes a statement as if it is a statement of fact
> having not bothered to check if that statement has any basis
> in fact they are behaving exactly like the mainstream media,
> twisting, distorting and manipulating lies and half truths.
> It's propaganda. It's not what I call honesty, whether
> you beleive you were telling the truth or not

Dave
Discussion should either be useful, or fun, or both.
Going over this again would be neither, so I won't

H
So, was the "discussion" about my personal housing situation, which you lied
about,useful- or fun? To me it's been apparent for a longtime that your
participation on this list is, as you've admitted, just fun. What turns me
off about you is that you're idea of fun is to put people down and slag them
off just like a playground bully. Of course such types don't really exist on
the web, there are delete buttons, block sender lists, blah blah. But all
that aside, you remain a nasty piece of work that doesnt really seem to have
a clue about basic nettiquet.

D
I wrote


>> I am co-operating with fellow class struggle anarchists
>> through the anarcho-scots network. We are jointly
>> producing an anti-war leaflet and jointly making
>> plans for the big anti-war demonstration on
>> Saturday February 15th. This is as part of
>> an international mobilisation against war.
>> We think we can actually achieve something.
>> That's my priority.


and Heather says


> If that were really true


" IF " ?

Exactly which bit of my statement above
are you implying is not true?

H
The bit that states co operating is a priority. You co operate with those
and such as those that pass the test of your personal criteria of class
struggle anarchists. In that sense you're a complete elitist-a snob, worse
than any of the snobs in the upper classes you hate so much. My father
called it "inverted snobbery" and that sums you up.

D
>> I am co-operating with fellow class struggle
>> anarchists through the anarcho-scots network.


snip
>> We are jointly producing an anti-war leaflet


Again, a statement of fact. The leaflet was
basically written by me, the artwork was done
by Iain, and Tommy printed it. Iain is on this
list and can confirm this.

H
Yes Dave, if you remember we agreed on my edited version of that leaflet,
which eveporated into cyberspace between the list and the printers. Doh.

D
snip
. Last week
I took part in a small demonstration
at Dundee army recruiting office. Ironically
the very same recruiting office where
I myself enlisted in February 1959.
On Friday I was at the Dundee Mosque,
leafletting Muslims who were there for
Friday prayers, about the demonstration.
The Mosque have decided to run their own
bus to the demonstration in Glasgow, presumably
to keep good Muslims away from infidels.
But at least they are going, and yes, I do
take some credit for that. On Tuesday I was
at Dundee university, leafletting students about
the demonstration in Glasgow. Tonight I was at
an anti-war meeting. Tomorrow I will be at another
anti-war action in the City Square, intended
to build support for February 15th. You may
agree or disagree with what I am doing. But
it is a statement of fact that I am doing it.
Just ask anybody who is involved in anti-war
activity in Dundee, they will confirm this.

H
Thats all good Dave, I'm judging you on the percentage of your posts to the
lists you are on that are negative,weighed against those that are positive.
I reckon it's getting on for 90% negative. As for your other anti-war
activities, if you want coverage of them on the net, send a write up and
pics to the new site at the old address, or anarcho-scots. What other
anarchists are involved in antiwar activity in dundee? Are you actually on
speaking terms with any of them?


> there's no way you would be dedicating
> most of your time on the net to petty minded
> one up manship, as you do,-you would be
> too busy doing more positive stuff.


As far as "busy doing more positive stuff"
is concerned, see above. The rest I will
just ignore.


Dave Coull

H
Ah, ignorance, uhuh, yeah great.
H