File spoon-archives/anarchy-list.archive/anarchy-list_2003/anarchy-list.0303, message 111


Date: Tue, 04 Mar 2003 20:14:20 +0000
From: Iain McKay <iain.mckay-AT-zetnet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: More senseless Frog bashing


hello all

danceswithcarp wrote:
> >I don't think anarchists should be promoting xenophobia and blind
> >allegence to your masters -- which, of course, is the unspoken
> >underlying logic behind this joke.
> 
> And I have no idea how this promotes "blind allegiance" to our
> "masters."   This statement is really beneath your normally high levels of
> discourse. 

Thanks for the complement, but lets be honest. Why are such jokes
being said about the French just now by right-wing papers (and its
the case over here as well)? Simply to attack those whom have displeased
the people in charge. Its not a coincidence. The obvious implication
is that "real" Americans or Brits side with their rulers and mock
those whom they mock.

<snip>

> It is true I bash the French.  It is also true I bash you
> islanders.   Quite frankly, I don't care for the run-of-the-mill German
> much,  either.   Now, of course the question is:  Does this matter?

It does when there is obviously a media attack on these groups for
daring to question the decisions of the US ruling class and their
poodles.
 
> Not a bit.  No one takes it seriously.   Racism did not grow out of a
> joke.  Xenophobia did not grow out of a joke.  Imperialism did not grow out
> of a joke.  Capitalism did not grow out of a joke.  War-mongering did not
> grow out of a joke.

Its just a bit of fun... Yes, of course, but that is what they always
say.
Yes, all that anti-immigrant stuff, no one takes it seriously... except,
of course, some do. And seeing the evils of bigotry first hand in
Glasgow
I know that "its a joke" is usually a weak excuse for doing something
you
know is wrong.

> To try to remove or discourage friendly banter from life because it runs
> afoul of accepted anarchist doctrine is a good way to have a very boring
> revolution.  Perhaps dancing is next?

Opps, here I am undermining freedom by simply expressing an opinion on
the
matter. And I'm sorry that Carp feels that he is unable to come up with
good jokes which do not involve putting others down :)

But feel free to have your "friendly banter" and I'll be free to think
that
you are capable of so much better and its a shame that you don't rise to 
your full potential...

Iain: Kill joy of the day... :)

   

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