From: "Old Goat" <olgoat-AT-nebi.com>
Subject: Re:  Reply to Bart
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2003 18:34:37 -0600


War is unhealthy.  I suppose on a list like this that should be a
given.  As for being required to hate one's homeland as well as
one's country's government, well that is pure bullshite.

I was raised a xenophobe and that meant distrusting anyone "not
like us."  (I do not, BTW, subscribe to the stupid fiction that
"the enemy of my enemy is my friend" but this does not exclude
temporary alliances with Useful Idiots.)  Of course, that always
meant the  powers-that-be -- both elected and self-appointed --
were anathema, but I was also taught not to vent my feelings in
public places or public fora as such was the Goat Clan doctrine
of invisibility ("So to all my outlaw brothers, who've worn holes
into their souls,/Take a page from one who's found a way to
win;/Cover up your guns, move into town, and smile and say,
'Hello,'/And make the bastards think you're just like them.")

All of the above being true I can state unequivocally that I love
my region (North America's high plains, the onliest place on
earth I "feel at home"), and my village (my roots and memories
are here), and my people (the Roma), my family (the Goaters and
the gadji Mole people), and my "outlaw brothers" -- and
sisters -- (the gadji anarks with whom I have daily contact).  I
have even become fond of some scattered gadji I have met whilst
out and about and whilst on this, and similar, lists -- some whom
I have met personally and some I have not (you know whom you
are).  To anyone else I meet I'm civil and polite, but I always
have a plan to kill them if it becomes necessary.

Since I live (borned and raised) in America, that would make me
an American.  Live with it -- I do.  But I do not now support,
nor will I ever support, any government, any where, any when.
And I sure as shootin' don't subscribe to the doctrine of  "my
country, right or wrong."

That being said, I reserve the right to poke fun -- or heap
vitriol -- "bestowing unkindness on folks I'm unlike" on such
easy targets such as avowed nationalists, be they Yankers,
Froggies, Limeys, Scotties, Micks, Krauts, Sprouts, Ragheads,
Wops, Beaners, Canucks, Zions, Squareheads, Slavs, Ozzies, Kiwis,
Chinks, Little Yellow Sons of Heaven, or Oklahoma Sooners.  If
there's any
nationalists I failed to insult here I apologise most humbly.

It behoves us to remember who is the enemy and it ain't any of
the above if they be true anarks, no matter what their stripe.
To youse who choose to dislike me simply (the operative word
here) because of where I was borned ("Amerikkka"), do your
damnedest -- it'll all come out in the wash, as Granny Goat used
to say:

A LITTLE OLD-FASHIONED KARMA
(Don't Forget To Pay The Fiddler, If You Please.)

I claim to believe that all men are brothers
and yet I complain of "they," "them," and "those others."
I'm quick to use "nigger" and "greaser" and "kike,"
bestowing unkindness on folks I'm unlike.
I'll steal from and cheat "them" because I don't see
what I do to others I'm doing to me.

What goes around, comes 'round--this lesson's well learned--
(when playing with matches I always get burned).
There is no escape clause, no loophole, you see;
the trouble I'm into I'm in 'cause of me.

For Karma is certain and justice is sure;
whoever says different is full of---manure.
Those books always balance.  That lunch wasn't free.
What I "got away with" has been charged to me.

So please pay attention and try to get wise--
do not be deluded by self-talk and lies.
There's no way around it because, pal, it's true:
Whatever you're doing you're doing to you.


--Bob Gambs from "The Rages of Sin"

Old Goat
For most folks safety is more
attractive than freedom.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Dave Coull" <coull2-AT-btinternet.com>
To: <anarchy-list-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2003 3:21 PM
Subject: Reply to Bart>
>
> Gr3g wrote>
>
> >  instead of complaining about what you see  as carp, goat &
bart's american-ness > >

> It's not so much their American-ness that is a problem in the
present climate of American
led war fever and global opposition to that, as their American
Nationalism. I don't normally
complain about this but at present it is a bit of a problem. >

> Dave Coull >