File spoon-archives/anarchy-list.archive/anarchy-list_2003/anarchy-list.0303, message 525


Date: Sat, 15 Mar 2003 15:54:51 -0500
From: danceswithcarp <dcombs-AT-bloomington.in.us>
Subject: Re: Reply from The Best Looking Man on the list, Dan Combs 


At 04:15 PM 3/15/2003 +0000, Dave Coull wrote:

> > No one is obsessed with you, Dave
>
>Oh no?
>At least two members of this list
>(Roger and Greg) now want to pretend
>to  _be_  me. And plenty of others, including
>yourself, have been talking about me. I think
>this is an unhealthy situation when there
>are more important things to discuss.

Look, YOU started calling people names.  People responded.  Now you take 
umbrage and claim you have some kind of high-road to take to purify the 
infidels.  NO ONE WANTS TO BE DAVE COULL.  Are you too fucking dense to 
recognize your chain being pulled:  People are MOCKING you.

> > If you would just shut up no one at all
> > would even think about you.
>
>I have no intention of "shutting up" about
>my political views. If others choose to
>respond by making things personal, then
>that is  _their_  problem.

Look in the archives, Dave.  You post one line, maybe, of political comment 
and then 5 lines of personal attack. You are a fool if you think that 
people will take your political opinions seriously when they are buried in 
invective and innuendo.


> > You're like Bob Black in that you are willing to use
> > the threat of exposure to the cops in order to get
> > your way.
>
>No, I am merely being totally consistent.

No, you are bullying and are very clearly using the threat that you will 
broadcast people's names all over the net if they take a stand against your 
insanity. This isn't even implied:  You are doing it.  You are trying to 
silence your opponents by intimidating them with the potential power of 
police surveillance.    You have been here for at least two discussions on 
the impropriety of subscribing the -AT--list to bulletin boards and you have 
seen the overwhelming opposition to making names available too freely.  But 
yet here is Dave Coull disregarding the wishes of the entire group in order 
to advance his own agenda.  How can you be an anarchist, Dave, if this is 
not how anarchists behave?

It is no wonder your reputation among activists there on the island is held 
in such low esteem: If you will expose people to the powers of the state 
because they disagree with you on the anarchy-list, can anyone believe that 
you wouldn't do this in person?   You are a detriment to anarchy, 
Dave.  You are a detriment to organizing.  You are an egoist of no small 
dimensions and your mere presence is a threat to any real chance of open 
discussions and debate.

It is very plain to see you are an Agent Provocateur.   You cannot say it 
hasn't  occurred to you there are 200 people on this list and by your 
tactics you intentionally stifle THEIR speech.   There are teachers on this 
list, people who are at the mercy of corporate bosses, people who the 
anti-terror police are watching.  But yet you, Dave Coull, use your ability 
to destroy their lives by making them easily visible to the police and the 
public because YOUR feelings are hurt and because you are an old welfare 
case and man on the dole and you have nothing to lose.

You said it in your last post, as long as people disagree with you, you 
will exercise your option to expose their names.   You are not an 
anarchist, Dave, as much as you claim to be so.  You are simply a bitter 
old man who once went to a successful demonstration.  I simply can not 
believe that after 9 years on this list I have finally seen someone attempt 
to use it for the benefit of the police.  I will not unsub in response to 
your police informant status, but you will not make excuses enough to 
change my mind.  Your attempts at intimidating are pathetic gestures, Dave, 
of a failed man and dogma.

>I sign all of my e-mails with my real name.
>If people choose to talk about me, referring
>to  ME  by my real name, then there is
>the possibility of them getting a reply
>which is to  _them_ , rather than to
>some pseudonym.

No, Dave, you are simply lying as to your motive.  Each email that comes to 
the list contains the name of the individual you are responding to.  The 
name is already there:  "At 04:15 PM 3/15/2003 +0000, Someone's Name 
wrote..."  Everyone knows exactly who is posting.   What you are doing is 
escalating the name-usage into the header as an act of intimidation.  Your 
threat and actions are very clear and no amount of rationalizing and 
justifying will change it: "If you respond to Dave Coull you will be exposed."

You are a fascist, Dave.  You have gone over to the dark side.  You started 
every one of these hate-mail sessions and threads by name-calling because 
you haven't the courage to stick to debate.  You are everything I oppose; 
you seek to IMPOSE Dave Coull on this list.  No tactic is beneath you.  And 
when you are called on it you wheeze and whinny and claim you are 
justified.  No, Dave, you are not.  No one is ever justified by trying to 
destroy fellow activists lives.  I pity your corrupted mind that allows you 
think it is within your purview to do so.  I don't want any more posts from 
you, Dave.  I don't believe you.  I don't like you or your politics.  Class 
Warfare Anarchist?   No.  You are a No-Class Fascist.  You are only 
interested in furthering the cause of Dave Coull and like the agents of 
McCarthy in the US, you simply do not care who you destroy to do so.  Do 
you honestly believe you will find allies by behaving so?

Or will you say you don't need allies?  This is The Ultimate Truth of your 
crusade, Dave, that for you allies aren't important.  Because without 
allies there will be no revolution in the mold of Dave Coull, and if there 
is no revolution then your actions and words have no purpose except to 
satisfy your own ego.    Yes, Dave, I pity a man and mind that has sunk to 
existing on bitterness alone.


> > Over here we call people like that
> > "informers."

>The obsession with secrecy is a fascistic
>urge,


Again you resort to name calling by insinuation:  If you do not want to use 
your birth-name, you are fascist.    Where is it spoken that the urge for 
secrecy is a fascistic urge?    This is Dave Coull Classic.  You make a 
wild-assed accusation to deflect attention from your own foibles and 
failures.  Your idea that people need exposed is the fascistic idea, Dave, 
because you have taken it upon yourself to do so.

>and has been used by alleged "liberators"
>of all sorts to justify suppressing freedom
>of expression.

Bullshit.  It is you using the tactic of exposure to silence your critics 
that suppresses freedom.  What business is it of yours what anyone calls 
themselves?  THAT is their freedom.  Dave Coull's freedom is to live off of 
the dole and the public teat and no one threatens to take that away from 
you, but yet it is Dave Coull who determines the limits of freedom for 
others?  Who is the fascist here, Dave?  Do you think Heather was jut 
bullshitting when she quoted other activists about you?  Is it so important 
to you to be important that you must dictate behavior to others?

This wasn't a flame, Dave.  This was a heart-to-heart political discourse 
about your behavior and how it appears to 95% of the people on this 
list.  Yes, you will say you don't care about others opinions, and then you 
will post reply after reply in response to others opinion of you.  This 
will simply expose one more time the lie that you are.


carp


   

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