Date: Mon, 19 Jan 2004 16:07:50 -0600
From: Chuck0 <chuck-AT-mutualaid.org>
Subject: Re: primitivism and anarchism


Kevin Carson wrote:

> If anarchism was once part of the left, how can statism be "inherent in" 
> leftism as such?

It's always been inherent in leftism, which is the reason why anarchists 
are a different political tendency than leftism. It's THE fundmental 
difference between anarchists and leftists.

> Lawrence Jarach begged the question by suggesting that leftism consisted 
> of liberalism, social democracy, leninism, and other statist 
> movements--although he didn't explicitly define leftism.

He defined leftism by pointing out that leftism includes liberalism, 
social democracy, leninism and so on.

> I didn't ask you to define leftism.  I argued that your definition of 
> leftism was circular and self-verifying.  So a circular definition is 
> the appropriate response to those who question the circularity of a 
> definition?

Why are we having this pointless discussion. I know what leftism is. You 
know what leftism is. What is the point of this?

>> God, how I love the winter months and how they make people cranky and 
>> argumentive.
> 
> 
> No comment.


Chuck