File spoon-archives/anarchy-list.archive/anarchy-list_2004/anarchy-list.0401, message 59


Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 19:09:24 +0000
From: Iain McKay <iain.mckay-AT-zetnet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: primitivism and anarchism


hello all

Chuck0 wrote:
> > So, tell us Chuck0, why do some dumbshit anarchists
> > allege that you are a primitivist? What are their
> > (presumably flimsy) grounds for doing so? Why is
> > the allegation untrue? In what ways do you have
> > something in common with Ug and his followers,
> > and in what ways do you differ from them?
> 
> It mostly has to do with guilt-by-association. There seems to be a
> handful of anarchists in the U.S. who think that anybody who is
> associated with Anarchy magazine is a minion of Satan.

I thought it was a minion of Stana. Silly me :)

I like Anarchy, in many ways, but it does not help with polite debate.
That issue on Platformism depressed me, I must admit. What a wasted
opportunity. 

 I happen to be
> the unofficial webmaster for Anarchy magazine and am good friends with
> Jason McQuinn and I share certain ideas, so that makes me part of the
> Evil Primitivist Conspiracy(tm).

Well, only fair :) I was accused of being part of the Evil
Workerist/Leftist
Conspiracy (tm) by those two morons from the UK "Green Anarchist." They
even said I was someone else, whom they repeated corporate press smears
against!

But then again, I had the gaul of questioning their politics...
 
> I do agree with many of the criticisms of "workerist" anarchists, but I
> come to that because I see many of them as dogmatic, non-critical
> ideologues who can't think outside of the box.

Funny, I think the same about "primitivists." They are *so* dogmatic it
makes Lenin look like a free thinking liberal. And as for non-critical,
they don't subject their own ideas to any kind of analysis and get
huffy when you do so.

I'm trying to avoid name calling these days, but it's hard. Particularly
when the first thing "primitivists" in Freedom write is about
"traditional"
anarchists being "reformists" and aiming to keep things 99% the same.
That sort of nonsense is uncalled for.

Iain



   

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