Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 14:55:17 -0600
From: Chuck0 <chuck-AT-mutualaid.org>
Subject: Re: primitivism and anarchism


Dave Coull wrote:

> Be fair, Chuck0, the primitives have generated quite
> a lot of hatred all by themselves, without any help 
> from anybody else. 

You are talking about the situation in the UK, which has a few brash 
primitivists. The situation here in the States is different.

A few years ago, the "Green Anarchist"
> magazine was denouncing and threatening an Edinburgh-
> based comrade, whose only crimes are that he is English, 
> that he goes under the name "Space Bunny", and that, 
> when he dances, he does indeed bear a striking resemblance
> to a rabbit from outer space. 

As I understand it, Space Bunny is not exactly an innocent in these 
disputes. I seem to remember that he threw his support behind some 
nutcases in Edinburgh who wanted to burn down an American anarchist 
bookstore.

When other folk in Scotland
> stood by him, the "Green Anarchist" crew then denounced
>  ALL  Scottish anarchists. 

Oh, no, they sound like assholes!

They have maintained this
> vendetta against Scottish anarchists in general towards
> one of our number who now lives in London. Iain wrote
> "I was accused of being part of the Evil Workerist/Leftist
> Conspiracy (tm) by those two morons from the UK 'Green Anarchist'.
> They even said I was someone else, whom they repeated corporate 
> press smears against! But then again, I had the gaul of 
> questioning their politics..."

Cool! Some of the American anarchists think that I am part of the 
Anarchy Magazine--Bob Black--John Zerzan Axis of Evil. These assholes 
have gone beyond simply tossing this shit around on e-mail lists, 
they've gone so far as to spread rumors about me in anarchist circles. 
One of them, who used to be on this list, was so convinced of my evil 
intentions, that he actually suggested on another list that Infoshop.org 
had to be brought down.

> Chucko asks
>>If this isn't going to happen, then why all the fuss about primitivists? 

> Because they happen to have been mentioned on the anarchy-list recently,
> and things have been quiet, and it's about time we threw somebody
> to the lions, and because I can't think of anybody more deserving.

Sounds good to me. They are probably vegans, which would suit my 
ovo-lacto vegetarian digestion quite nicely.

> Sometimes there is a "fuss" about the so-called "anarcho-"capitalists,
> or some other piece of nonsense, it just so happens that this 
> time it is about the primitives. The reason we are discussing
> them is because Iain wrote

The anarcho-capitalists have gone away, mostly because they got laid off 
from their jobs and found out what capitalism is really about. ;-)

Chuck