Date: Tue, 13 Jan 2004 21:39:43 +0000 From: Iain McKay <iain.mckay-AT-zetnet.co.uk> Subject: Re: primitivism and anarchism hello all Chuck0 wrote: > And post-leftism isn't attacking these tendencies as being leftist. A > few people in these tendencies think that their brand of anarchism is > being attacked, but post-leftism is not about identifying certain > varieties of anarchism as being leftism. You could have fooled me! Honestly, that is *not* the impression I got. > Really, people should listen to the criticisms and not assume that their > critics are unified. I don't assume the latter. but I read the criticisms and came away with a very negative impression of the whole thing. Any positive ideas were hidden by the appearence of attacks on other anarchist tendencies... > It dawned on me several weeks ago that the FAQ is basically a > post-leftist document. After I found myself referring to the FAQ so much > in debates on Infoshop News, I realized that the FAQ is really > post-leftist tool. When you are spending so much time referring people > to the FAQ because they think that voting in elections is part of > anarchism, then you start to see the FAQ as being post-leftist. except that it draws on classical anarchist ideas. Does that mean "post-leftist" simply means "anarchist"? > One of the basic aspects of post-leftism has been about reminding > so-called anarchists about anarchist ideas. A lot of people have joined > the movement of late and some of them have some wrong ideas about anarchism. I know. Those bloody anti-organisationalist people!!!! :) > I've been called "leftist" by Bob Black, if I remember > > rightly -- particularly when I wrote an article for Black Flag on > > those pesky Italian syndicalists becoming fascists. > > OK. So Bob Black is a provocative writer. Why is he relevant here? because he has this habit of labelling people. As I said, I'm sure he called me a leftist (and definitely a workerist). He is a "post-left" anarchism and there he was calling me a leftist... > > we'll see... There are pains in the arse in all bits of the movement, > > that's for sure. > > Tell me about it. > > Can we trade? No! Can we send them somewhere without a internet connection? Or a post network? Wow, primitivism in action :) Iain
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