Date: Sun, 01 Feb 2004 12:42:56 -0600
From: Chuck0 <chuck-AT-mutualaid.org>
Subject: Re: Primitivism and anarchism discussion Part 1


dave dorkin wrote:

> I'm in America which is your side of the pond. There
> are similarities between primitivism and post leftism,
> particularly in their eagerness to attack the left.

Anarcho-syndicalism, social anarchism, and other forms of anarchism are 
eager to attack the left. This does not make them equivalent to primitivism.

This argument is illogical.

> "And post-leftism is not about 'impure'
> anarchism.Post-leftism is about critiquing the
> remaining influences of leftism on anarchism so that
> we can find out better ways of practicing and
> implementing our anarchism"
> 
> What you just did above was describe locating
> 'leftist' impurities in some people's anarchism in
> view of eliminating them. 

Huh?

> Leftism isnt just some SWP rally. One can just as
> easily retort, equally improperly, that anarchist
> rallies are "liefstyle get-togethers" (especially
> post-left ones) which serious minded people looking
> for social change should avoid. 
> 
> Why dont you read someone else besides the so called
> post-leftists on what the left is, like Chomsky or
> even Norberto Bobbio? Anarchists are welcome to have
> their own exclusive rallies, though the limits of this
> seem rather clear.

I suggest you actually spend some time reading what post-leftists are 
saying:

http://www.infoshop.org/afterleftism.html

When you've done your homework, perhaps we can then have a discussion 
like mature adults.

Chuck0