From: "Dave Coull" <coull2-AT-btinternet.com> Subject: RE: Primitivism and anarchism discussion Part 1 Date: Sun, 1 Feb 2004 17:18:08 -0000 Chuck0 wrote > the "quiz" I sent out was meant to show that > all of us know leftism when we see it. The quiz you sent out was just a way of _avoiding_ argument. It proved absolutely nothing. > The argument levied against post-leftists that > we haven't explained a definition "leftism" is > a fallacious one because post-leftists have elaborated > a definition. A definition of what YOU mean by "left", which, as is clear from what _many_ people have said here on the anarchy list, is not generally accepted. > This definitional argument is just thrown up by people > who have nothing sold to say. It is you and your fellow post-leftists who have nothing to say. You describe the anarchist FAQ as a "post-leftist" document, despite the guy mainly responsible for it denying any such intention, and despite it having the support of folk like myself who strongly deny being "post-leftist". > Iain just doesn't understand yet why he should consider > himself to be a post-leftist. Ah, so he has not yet had that Road-To-Damascus experience of the true Post-Leftist believer. > An Anarchist FAQ is a post-leftist document because in > part it is an extended educational tool aimed at anarchists. Well, it isn't just aimed at anarchists, it is also, very importantly, aimed at people who are not anarchists, but who want to learn about anarchism. But being an extended educational tool about anarchism doesn't make it "post-leftist". > It helps explain what anarchism is and why it is different > than leftism It explains why anarchism is different from all of the various sects of the _authoritarian_ left. That is not quite the same thing as your "spin" on it. This is ridiculous. It is like Christians arguing over the interpretation of the Bible. But with the obvious difference that the guy who wrote most of the thing is still very much with us and has told you he doesn't see it as "post-leftist". Yet you persist in saying that it is, and saying that he just hasn't understood his own words yet. Such blind faith as yours is impervious to reason. Dave C
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