From: "roger" <babeuf-AT-comcast.net>
Subject: Re: New book on anti-capitalism
Date: Mon, 14 Jun 2004 22:59:11 -0700


> roger
>     capitalism, historically, arose in conjuction with and is
entirely
>     dependent upon the modern state, if only to define and enforce
>     property rights.
> MJ
> Capitalism is not dependent upon a State.
>
>

well, then you either don't know what 'capitalism' means or what
'state' means or both, at least in any sense that would make rational
discourse possible.  you are certainly free to re-define words, and
indeed history, to your tastes, but you'll find little support on this
list for your views i predict.  where there is property, there is a
state to defend it, despite the deluded capitalists who hide behind it
while rhetorically attacking it.

i really despise intellectual dishonesty.  why so many capitalists
yearn to wear the mantel of 'anarchist' is really beyond me, as they
seem to have absolutely no appreciation of the intellectual
underpinnings.  i suppose it stems from some deeply rooted
insecurities.  tell us, are you not a very good capitalist?  well, i
assure you, it probably isn't the state's fault.  cheer up and quit
whining.  the state is all that stands between you capitalists and
fucking justice.  better hope it lasts a while.

roger