Date: Tue, 2 Nov 2004 11:06:54 -0800 (PST)
Subject: Re: electoral vote


what will be "substantial" ?

it is rather scary that even anarchists discuss voting
for kerry to stop bush. what does that say of the
poltical intelligence of the general u$a public.

let's open it a bit

in europe since a couple of years (decades) there is a
real shift to the (extreme) right, a


--- DK Sanders-Weatherford <dksander-AT-uark.edu> wrote:

> 
> this is what i've been saying.  i think there's a
> substantial number of
> folks out there who are planning to vote this time
> (a lot of whom have
> never voted before), and i don't think they've been
> picked up in the
> polls.  i wasn't sure why, thinking maybe they are
> less likely to answer
> pollsters' questions, less likely to be home when
> they call?  then i saw
> that article over at electoral-vote.com that said it
> was the cell phones;
> i think they had an 18-26 year old group they said
> primarily used cell
> phones and so had typically not been counted in the
> polls.  some of my
> virgin voter friends who are voting for the first
> time have told me that
> they refuse to answer polls on the phone, think it's
> rude.
> 
> you all seen the newz about the planted votes on the
> machines in philly?
> http://www.drudgereport.com/vote1.htm
> 
> i was thinking about voting this time.  i "voted"
> once before about four
> years ago, but i ruined my ballot, so i didn't
> really vote.  but, i
> thought i might this time, you know, for shits and
> giggles, but i don't
> know if i can handle having to drive down to some
> polling place that i
> can't find and try to find a parking place and find
> the door and stand in
> the correct line for hours.  i don't think i can
> take that kind of stress
> this week.
> 
> maybe i'll just cover my head with a blanket and eat
> chocolate.
> 
> dk
> 
> On Tue, 2 Nov 2004, Dave Coull wrote:
> 
> > Not the exact vote, no, but I am predicting Kerry
> will win
> > by a significant margin. It looks like there is
> going to be
> > a substantial increase in the numbers of folk
> voting, and
> > that is usually bad for the incumbent. It
> certainly was for
> > the pro-Bush government in Spain. The opinion
> polls got
> > that one wrong, they underestimated the opposition
> support
> > because they are set up to ask folk who  _usually_
> vote
> > how they intend to vote, not folk who usually
> don't. Even
> > a substantial win for Kerry is likely to be
> disputed by armies
> > of lawyers saying you can't count  _that_  vote,
> he didn't
> > register properly, and you can't count  _that_ 
> vote, he was
> > convicted of spitting on the sidewalk fifteen
> years ago. Then
> > when it becomes clear that Bush really has lost
> there will
> > be rumours of a coup d'etat. Or maybe there won't
> be rumours,
> > just a coup d'etat. On the other hand, maybe it
> will all go
> > smoothly and there will be a smooth "handover" of
> power.
> 


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