File spoon-archives/aut-op-sy.archive/aut-op-sy_1996/96-07-05.061, message 77


From: glevy-AT-pratt.edu
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 1996 07:09:46 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: autovalorization


Steve wrote:

> Franco, Hobo and Massimo have also done some translating over the past 8 or
> 9 months,[...]

Thanks to them as well.

> Then again, it would be interesting to go back to that book that John
> Holloway and others wrote in the late 70s, which I think *was* called "In
> and Against the State", dealing with the struggles of public sector
> workers, above all those engaged in the provision of social services.

This is a context in which the expression has relevance. I was confused,
though, because the context of state employees struggling against
the state wasn't apparent from your previous post. Without such a
qualification, it sounded a bit left social democratic (which, as I say,
confused me because I knew that was not what you meant).

> And to be a little provocative: who if any of us today are completely
> *outside* the shadow of the state as we go about our daily routine
> (although I'm sure no one on this list is in the least bit a "routine"
> sorts of person ;-))?

Of course, none of us can escape completely from the "shadow" of the state
and capital so long as there is the state and capital. This is true, as
well, for producer and consumer cooperatives whose activities can not be
divorced from the wider social context in which they occur.

In solidarity,

Jerry



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