File spoon-archives/aut-op-sy.archive/aut-op-sy_1996/96-07-22.163, message 13


Date: Sat, 6 Jul 1996 13:33:01 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Harry M. Cleaver" <hmcleave-AT-mundo.eco.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: autovalorization


On Sat, 6 Jul 1996 glevy-AT-pratt.edu wrote:

> Harry M. Cleaver wrote:
> 
> > Again, it was to be able to grasp these kinds of situations (and
> > even at one time people hoped to be able to predict them) that "class
> > composition" was deployed. Ferruccio Gambino did it for Ford in Britain,
> > Alquati for Olivetti and Fiat, etc.
> 
> OK, that's interesting. I'll have to see if I have the Gambino article
> (which, I assume is "Workers' Struggles and the Development of Ford in
> Britain" in _Bulletin of the Conference of Socialist Economists_, March
> 1976). 

Jerry: yes, that was the one I meant. I think Ferruccio had a longer or 
shorter Italian version. Steve, do you know? I also think there was an 
original booklet published in England that WAS much longer than the 
article. I think it is in the Red Notes Archive, but I don't have it. 
Maybe Massimo can visit Ed and make a copy, skim it, or better yet scan 
it and make it available? If we did this with the stuff we discuss after 
a while we'd have quite a collection. :-)

I do remember the Alquati book, though, and was quite impressed
> with it at the time (incidentally, Robbie Guttmann, a person that you
> might not  immediately think of as one was was influenced by this work but
> who was, lent me his copy of the book, possibly as a German translation,
> lent me his copy way back in 1980). You discuss Alquati briefly in your
> book. Do you know of any critical review or discussions of either of the
> two sources above in English?
> 
> Jerry

Jerry: Yes, I know Guttmann was influenced, but I never knew him 
personally. I think he was in the original Orford Road group with John 
Merrington, Peter Linebaugh et al, but I'd have to check my notes.

The best English discussion available to my knowledge is in Steve's 
dissertation. Hey Steve, can you upload a post a couple of chapters at 
least?? On that subject, you really should get the whole thing on the web 
--in print too as far as that goes! I've got my book into e-text, I've 
just got to find the time to upload it both textonly for gopher and 
html'd for the web. Have you thought about it?

Harry
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