From: Mneillft-AT-aol.com
Date: Thu, 23 Jan 1997 10:11:14 -0500 (EST)
Subject: Re: Need insight for welfare movement


RE: Emmanuel's comments:

What is "meaningful work"?  What is "self sufficiency"? Under capitalism,
work is exploitation.  Getting "work" retains capital. Most of us appear to
need to get work to eat, etc. , but most of us would prefer to refuse work --
though not necessarily various kinds of activity in the world. How do we
refuse work, which is to refuse being labor power and thus refuse capital,
esp. on a collective, class basis? Can immediate struggles, demands around
income, e.g. welfare, move in that direction? Can at least the issues be
posed?

As far as I can tell "self sufficiency" often means either having a job and
supporting ones' self (and perhaps family) -- but here the self is dependent
on being employed by capital, or means selling/producing a product within
capitalist relations;  or some sort of self or perhaps communal autarkic
self-subsistence situation (which remains within capital, though can be a
node of anti-capital as well).  Perhaps there are other meanings people give
this term.  Can discussion about it help move against or beyond capital? How?

Monty Neill
<mneillft-AT-aol.com>


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