From: Mneillft-AT-aol.com Date: Mon, 3 Feb 1997 17:11:19 -0500 (EST) Subject: RE: race --PART.BOUNDARY.0.5692.emout10.mail.aol.com.854997907 Content-ID: <0_5692_854997907-AT-emout10.mail.aol.com.24584> Reply to Harald from Monty re: race: --PART.BOUNDARY.0.5692.emout10.mail.aol.com.854997907 Content-ID: <0_5692_854997907-AT-emout10.mail.aol.com.24585> name="HAR-RACE.ASC" Harald. I'm torn between a quick reply and taking more time for a more thoughtful reply -- really, comment -- on your remarks on "race" -- but will take the quick route because I am not sure when I will next reply. The following seem to be the key remarks in your two posts re: the issue of race/racism: =0D -- And one thing more, if you don't manage to make this into a movement that crosses the "racial" barriers, it most likely will hit you like a boomerang. In my opinion "the left" in the US is far to "race" sensitive. =0D -- When I travelled around the U.S. back in 1992, I was often told from different quarters that the racial issue could not be overstated. I believe it can. If you always emphasise what divides us (what makes THEM different from US) you end up spending little thought on what connects us, and you perpetuate the racial categorisation you are claiming to oppose. =0D -- I found in general a reluctance against crossing not only the spatial barriers, but also those of real communication which always involves a criticism. To respect people on the grounds that they are oppressed is not respect at all. And you can never trust such people (what are they saying behind your back?). =0D I think you do raise a critical issue: how to address the continuing racism which African American, Latino, Asian-American, American Indian activists continue to point to as existing not simply in general but within and among activists/movements, including those that purport to be anti-racist [and thus potentially "emphasize what divides us"]; and at the same time find the things that unite us. I do not think the former is "perpetuat(ing) the racial categorisation you are claiming to oppose" -- that happens all the time and cannot be resolved by searching for agreement, which often times in the US has taken the form of 'black and white unite and fight' -- under that or myriad similar slogans -- that failed to address racism among the whites as the cause of the inability to unite and fight. =0D Let me point to a concrete issue, as briefly as I can. I am part of a coalition/network involving "education activists" which takes as probably its central (but not only) imperative to attack racism in education. For a number of reasons the coalition has a hard time moving beyond sponsoring an annual conference, but there are financial problems, so last summer (immediately before the Chiapas encuentro) a subset of this coalition (~40 people) met to discuss its future. In substantial part, what happened was an intense raising of the issue of racism within the very meeting, charges of racial arrogance by European-Americans, of not listening, etc. The final stages of this meeting were thus spent addressing these issues, and not directly discussing other issues about the survival and direction of the coalition. My point here is not to try to dissect the many issues and complexities of that particular, but to use it to highlight a few basic points. =0D =46rom the perspective I read you as posing, this could be a case in which the emphasis on the problems of racism prevented a discussion that would have focused more on the areas of agreement and on how to move. The discussion instead focused on internal problems (racism), in effect saying, I think, two things: unless the internal is sufficiently cleaned up, the organization cannot move on other fronts (or, we people of color will not let it); and, if it cannot be cleaned up, then it should perhaps not exist, or alternatively, we people of color may well not want to be a part of it. =0D Obviously any given individual or group has to decide if any organization is worth being a part of. But beyond that is a political question about how to do politics in the US. If one struggles for/waits for "perfection" or purity within the organization (or movement), not only will one probably wait a very long time and in the meantime many other things may not be done, but also it may be that moving (however impure) itself increases the possibility of addressing better the issues of racism -- but, nearly circular, if one is not open to deal with the problem, then it won't be dealt with. That is, racism has to be addressed and battled with rather continuously (I think things erupted at this meeting because they had not be deliberately raised for a number of years because no "crisis" happened). But I do think it cannot successfully be done in an insular fashion only -- there has to be some kind of a dialectic that simultaneously addresses racism withint the organization or movement or class, and struggles around what is common. In this case, the commonality is being working class within capitalism and under attack by capital. I do fear at times that the justified anger of the black working class at the continued racism within the white working class can create a situation where commonality is harder to find -- again, the prime problem is white racism, but among activists in the US we must find a means of exploring opposition to capitalism as well as racism (both together). =0D I fear that in particular the African American population is increasingly isolated -- again, not mostly their cause, but sometimes the emphasis on race and not on anti-capitalism reinforces that isolation. If the only condition on which unity is possible is first to be rid of racism, then I think unity will not happen. If whites don't deal with racism (and here I include 'whites' within the Latino population, which is also often a class relation among Latinos), then of course no unity is possible. The main problem is white racism, but white activists within the movement have to be willing to raise issues such as these for serious discussion: on what terms can a tentative unity be found that allows combatting both racism within the group and combatting capitalism and racism in society. =0D Your final comment (that I quoted) I think does approach a key element of the problem, the unwillingness among whites to be willing to engage in serious debate with people of color. Even in the discussion I describe above, most all the talking was done by people of color, and the white folk tended to say little. I think there are a number of reasons for this, but part of it is that unwillingness, probably due in part to a desire not to say something that would appear as racist. But as you say, failure to engage that discussion is racist. =0D Anyway, long enough. I don't know that we have a disagreement, but wanted to comment given your initial brief comment. =0D Monty Neill <mneillft-AT-aol.com> --PART.BOUNDARY.0.5692.emout10.mail.aol.com.854997907-- --- from list aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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