Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 02:13:39 +1000
Subject: Re: AUT: re: grundrisse etc discussion


Harry M. Cleaver wrote:
> 
> On Wed, 16 Sep 1998, Geoffrey J McDonald wrote:
> 
> > Professor Cleaver wrote:
> >
> > > Rakesh: Yes, very objectivistically, indeed. I wonder why you bother with
> > > this list which has so few objectivists, if any, besides yourself?
> >
> > Some people are interested in exchanging ideas and learning from people who
> > don't see things exactly the same way they do. Talk about "solipsism".
> >
> > Geoff
> >
> Geoff: First, do you see me using the title "professor" anywhere? Please
> don't. 

harry: i would agree that this kind of anti-academicism is unwarranted,
but it has occured before.


but: the intro to the autopsy list states:

"The purpose of AUT-OP-SY is to provide a forum in which to explore the
changing nature of class composition and class struggle within the
planetary work machine. To this end we encourage a range of
contributions, from news and views to 'works in progress' and instances
of co-research (interviews, questionnaires, etc.)."

i thought that both myself and the others that you named are concerned
to discuss and debate precisely around these questions.  if there are
other conditions to being on the list, namely an adherence to a
particular understanding of the processes of class composition, then it
should be made clear. as it is, i thought this is what the deabte was.  
do you really accuse the people you named of 'evangelising' or
'sharpening their wit'?  i would hope not.  things are getting heated
(and yes, i lost my temper, but can you truly say that you have not for
some time now been less than friendly in the way you have read
criticisms?), but still around the issues re: class composition.

angela


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