Date: Sat, 12 Sep 1998 01:15:51 +1000 Subject: AUT: re: grundrisse etc discussion Re: the discussion on the Grundrisse - though perhaps it is actually a discussion on autonomist readings of it. I think you're both right that it is perhaps historically perverse to say, as a matter of dogma, that the working class is the founding cause of capitalist action. But maybe this position results from a deeper theoretical problem: that, in the quest to abandon lenin (and leninist conceptions of the party), the question of the relation between labour-power as 'original cause' of capital has been so subjectivised that, within much autonomist politics, any differences -either theoretical or historical - between the concepts of labour-power and the working class is elided and, equally problematic, the differences between capital and capitalists are obscured as well. It is perhaps ironic that here the autonomists share such a position with the leninist remainders such as the trotskyists when they talk about 'the bosses', etc. I think also, that these issues cannot be resolved entirely through empiric analyses - which would after all provide so much in the way of detail, and perhaps not enough in the way of understanding. This is not to say those analyses are not crucial, but perhaps not sufficient. I think this is why those unfortunate disputes over 'class in itself/class for itself' have occurred, also to a large extent the debates over 'base/superstructure'. So, I think the grundrisse (and negri) have too often been assumed as taking one side in these kind of disputes (the subjectivist side), and too little attention is paid to things like - things which negri does mention - the role of credit in assuring the collectivisation of the capitalist class around a capitalist plan at a certain period in history (welfare state and so on). Here bonefeld et al have been particularly useful. I am not sure if there is a similar appraisal of the historical mechanisms of working class formation that is not read off the 'occupational composition' of labour. Maybe I missed it. Maybe I'm jumping ahead as well in raising these issues. I'm interested in the reasons given for why the theory of a cycle of struggle/restructuring/accumulation has been abandoned as no longer relevant by some. angela mitropoulos --- from list aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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