Date: Sun, 13 Sep 1998 20:18:28 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: AUT: re: grundrisse etc discussion


I shall respond at greater length to Gerald Levy's post in the near
future, as it reflects a mixture of prejudice/ignorance which I suspect is
rather common among "Marxists."  For now, briefly: with respect to the
question of whether slaves thought of themselves as proletarians, do all,
or even most, proletarians think of themselves as such today?  Does one
have to think oneself proletarian in order to struggle in proletarian
ways, ie in ways that threaten to overturn the rule of capital?  As for
tavern owners, do you think that seventeenth-century tavern owners
resemble theircontemporary counterparts?  Perhaps there are still tavern owners who
provide spaces for proletarians to meet, conspire, unload stolen goods,
hide out from the authorities, and so on, but I'm not aware of any.
Though they made profits from their businesses, so did the proles selling
stolen goods, which didn't make them non-proles, did it?

Regards,

Forrest


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