File spoon-archives/aut-op-sy.archive/aut-op-sy_2001/aut-op-sy.0103, message 8


Date: Sat, 3 Mar 2001 16:08:01 -0800 (PST)
From: commie zero zero <commie00-AT-yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: AUT: Re: empire & globalization, was... 


> I can't see this at all.  I'll grant you that there
> are certainly cops who
> are aware of the realities of class struggle and
> their role in it  - but not
> many I think at the 'bobby on the beat' level.  So
> what is 'your average
> cop' - a member of the ruling class with false
> consciousness?

like i said, composition is more important than
consciousness. i would wager that many of the heads of
corporations really believe they are doing something
"good for humanity", but we know this is crap.

the question is: what is the role of cops? they are
there to carry out the day to day material subjegation
of the working class, much like managers. they are the
first line of attack / defense for the ruling class,
and as such they have been absorbed into the ruling
class.

> But, on the other side, in my experience (in UK)
> welfare professionals,
> academics and the like can be seen to be middle
> class for several reasons:
> e.g. they have significantly higher standards of
> living than most workers,
> their social and material status is more secure,
> they have much more job
> autonomy, etc. - these things lead to distinct
> attitudes/consciousness/behaviour.

you have just described every factory worker and miner
i know (almost all of whom live in suburbs). are they
middle class as well?

> That's not to say that some professions haven't
> been/aren't being
> 'proletarianised'  - but it's relative.  Social
> workers still have very
> privileged lives compared to most call centre
> operatives...

and most call center operatives have privilaged lives
relative to homeless people... so they are middle
class relative to the homeless? this kind of thinking
quickly leads to a point where only the homeless are
really proles... 

i don't think it works this way. there is no denying
that there are sections of the working class who are
more privilaged than others, but this does not make
them not working class. it is merely the realization
of the attempts to the ruling class to divide us along
wage, etc. lines. 

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