Date: Thu, 19 Apr 2001 23:00:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: commie zero zero <commie00-AT-yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: AUT: Fwd: Report on the International People Global Action Forum in Milan-Italy


> > I talked to a Ya Basta member
> > on the night of September 26 and when I told him
> that some people had
> > thrown Molotovs on the blue march he said
> something like 'i don't agree
> > with using molotovs but it is a debate the
> movement has to have'. Quite
> > a refreshing change from dogmatic pacifism.
> 
> i disagree, i think it's a rather weak statement.
> 'the movement': it's just putting the onus onto
> something else.
> 'the movement', what's that? how can a movement
> debate? is not 'the
> movement' merely(?) the people who compose it?
> these statements are used to divert responsibility.
> ie. "it's not me, or us,
> it's 'them': the movement". why couldn't he say 'i
> don't agree with using
> molotovs.' and then *he/she* is making the decision
> (*he/she* is creating
> the movement, not being determined by it). it's
> almost as though he/she
> would accept whatever 'the movement' (or central
> committee) decides.

i think what s/he was trying to imply is that s/he
doesn't agree with people throwing molotovs, but feels
that they are in the same movement as s/he, and that
the violence vs. nonviolence debate is something that
must happen within the movement. i agree that this is
a refreshing difference from those people who want to
divide the movement based on violence / nonviolence. 

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