File spoon-archives/aut-op-sy.archive/aut-op-sy_2001/aut-op-sy.0106, message 114


Date: Sun, 10 Jun 2001 21:07:28 -0700 (PDT)
From: Sean Fenley <satellitecrash-AT-yahoo.com>
Subject: AUT: Re: wheee... nationalism 


  
> 
> It also seems that non-industrialized third world
> countries have their problems in developing
> socialism.
>  However, if you are a communist in such a country
> what should your strategy then be?
> 
Thomas,
the best questions are of course always the toughest
to answer that's why we have intellectuals. 

but my non-intellectual response would be something
like what occurred in 1956 in Hungary. i just read
that workers were actually controlling their
workplaces in this revolution until soviet union tanks
rolled in. I actually need to read about the history
of this struggle much more closely but i know that clr
james for one pointed to this insurrection as a
possible non party approach to communist revolution
(and non-advanced capitalist rev. also). many others
can comment more on this i hope... i think chiapas
could possibly lead to communism, but i'm not sure
there seems to be reformist strains within their
movement and they are also nationalists which is a
problem with their movement (a stance they have used
successfully to gain support from civil society
though). these are two quite different examples but we
just have to look to non-party struggles that were
sucessful or somewhat sucessful and draw what we can
from them i think... 

i was at a midnight notes talk recently and one of the
members of the group suggested that had there not been
a soviet union some of the revolutions this century in
Africa could have taken a different shape. it seems
like today if a third world country wants to take an
alternate route than that which the global economy
wants to dictate to them, b/c of the absence of the
soviet union they would have strike out on their own,
and maybe this can lead to good things. 

i would argue that radicals in less developed
countries should struggle to build dual power, should
struggle for 'the good society', it's a lot safer to
struggle for social democracy or state capitalism but
i think the rewards would be much greater to struggle
for worker's self-management, distribution of goods
according to needs, etc... but its up to the poor and
disempowered in the countries not me... 
that's all i have on this one,
-Sean


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