From: "commie00" <commie00-AT-yahoo.com> Subject: response to louis Re: AUT: Hardt-Negri's Empire: a critique, part one Date: Fri, 15 Jun 2001 14:17:19 -0400 > It is good that you put vanguard party in scare quotes, because there was > no such thing in the USA or Europe for that matter. A true vanguard party > has the backing of millions of workers and peasants as it did in Russia in > 1917 or in Cuba in 1959. and we see what happened there: state-capitalism. that's what vanguardism gets ya... capitalism. > Don't worry about that. Their very nature would > prevent that. i agree... the fact that they are vanguardist (if not a full fledged vanguard party) means that they are coutner-revolutionary to the core... and it seems like the bulk of proles in the world have had enough of leninist dribble. and good riddance... so, yes, thankfully, they will not participate in / lead / or whatever revolution. what we have to worry about is that they will be counter-revolutionaries, just like all leninists before them. marx against hierarchy: "The social relation of individuals to one another as a power over the individuals which has become autonomous, whether conceived as a natural force, as chance or in whatever form, is a necessary result of the fact that the point of departure is not the free social individual." from the grundrisse therefore: since marx viewed the "free social individual" as the basis of a communist society, the existance of hierarchy means that a communist society has not come to pass (that is: capitalism, or some form of class society, exists)... and thus the hierarchy(ies) will have to be overthrown. NetZero Platinum No Banner Ads and Unlimited Access Sign Up Today - Only $9.95 per month! http://www.netzero.net --- from list aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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