Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2001 13:11:57 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Scott=20Hamilton?= <s_h_hamilton-AT-yahoo.com> Subject: Re: AUT: introduction Harry wrote: > The theory, in my reading, argues that capital is a > social relationship that is antagonistic because the endlessness of work must be imposed and > that work is alienated. People and their lives are > constrained from being all they can be and as a general rule they resist. This is a testable > argument. Harry also wrote: Has the working class suffered such a defeat that it is quiescent? Possiblly, I don't know. Surely there are cases where overt defeat has led to only the most > covert forms of passive resistance. You tell us. For me, the gap between these two statements, or rather the gap between the implications of these two statements, highlights the problem I perceive with autonomism and tried to express in my 'introduction' posting. The first statement seems quite straightforward - the only thing I would say about it here is that it seems like it might contradict Chris W's attempt (btw thanks heaps for the response and all the references Chris) to disengage Marx from epistemological quandries by way of an appeal to 'struggle' as the only true test of a theory's validity. The second statement is a little ambiguous, to me at least, but the implication I get from it is that quiescence is to be equated with "only the most covert forms of passive resistance". If this is so, then it appears that quiescence cannot really be quiescence - that class struggle can never truly be 'in suspension'. If this is so, then it seems that it would be difficult to regard autonomism as a testable doctrine. It's not a matter of complaining about autonomists always seeing class struggle, always identifying it in their studies - it's a matter of the *possibility* of not seeing it. If there is no such possibility, then it seems that autonomism is not falsifiable (and, yes, I know that is a very slippery concept, and the last thing I want to do is use it like a naive Popperian). I'll leave it there for now, in case I have skidded over any banana peels and gone off course. I'll try in later posts to show what I imagine might be some negative real-life consequences of the truthfulness of the argument I've made here. Cheers Scott ====For "a ruthless criticism of every existing idea": THR-AT-LL, NZ's class struggle anarchist paper http://www.freespeech.org/thrall/ THIRD EYE, a Kiwi lib left project, at http://www.geocities.com/the_third_eye_website/ and 'REVOLUTION' magazine, a Frankfurt-Christchurch production, http://cantua.canterbury.ac.nz/%7Ejho32/ ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free -AT-yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free -AT-yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie --- from list aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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