File spoon-archives/aut-op-sy.archive/aut-op-sy_2001/aut-op-sy.0106, message 506


From: "commie00" <commie00-AT-yahoo.com>
Subject: AUT: saaataaaaaaan!! (reply to chris, re: religion)
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2001 22:03:59 -0400



> Religion is a false universalism in part because it claims us all as
> Children of God (of course, every religion seems to pose every other
> religion as impure or at least insufficient to lead everyone to divine
> grace), which just covers for exploitation and alienated social relations.

how about "religions", such as buddhism and taoism (and sects of hinduism),
which deny the existance of any "god", and offer up very materialist
understandings of the "universe", and which do not view other religions as
"impure" in any sense?

let alone the fact that, for most sects, the goal is not transcendence, but
immanence. and in fact, for most sects, there is no goal at all, but an
understanding that the way (tao) and the goal (tao) are one in the same.

now, i'm not trying to defend these ideas as "religions" but to understand
them, like marx, in a materialist sense. and since they are very materialist
themsevles, understanding how they can contribute to revolutionary thought
and action (and how they contribute to the realization and supression of
philosophy...), esp since i find it interesting that as capitalism develops,
more and more working class people are turning away from the judeo-xian
tradition and toward these kinds of philosophies.

liberation theology and process theology work much the same way, via
catholocism.






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