File spoon-archives/aut-op-sy.archive/aut-op-sy_2001/aut-op-sy.0106, message 91


Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2001 20:38:44 -0700
Subject: Re: AUT: Re: Re: Re: Back to Crisis theory
From: Sharon Vance <canito3-AT-earthlink.net>


Actually I interpreted Harold's remarks about 'anti-globalism' not as
necessarily are return to Keynes, but as a turn to anti-internationalism and
nationalism. 
Sharon

> From: Peter Jovanovic <peterzoran-AT-hotmail.com>
> Reply-To: aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
> Date: Tue, 05 Jun 2001 12:18:52 +1000
> To: aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
> Subject: Re: AUT: Re: Re: Re: Back to Crisis theory
> 
> hi all
> 
> Harald wrote:
> 
>> Thanks for you reply Peter (Havas; there are two Peters on the list now)
> 
> Actually there are at least 3 if Peter van Heusden is still here.
> 
>> and the increased awareness of that capital operates globally, offer
>> possibilities. That so much of this renewed awareness is articulated
>> in terms of anti-globalisation is not promising though.
> 
> It's not good to the extent that anti-globalisation is de-facto  expressed
> as a desire to return to the Keynesian past yet as the anti-globalisation
> movement (i know you don't like this term but in the abscence of a better
> one...) has progressed the anti-capitalist part of it has become more
> dominant. Of course (following the Aufheben 2000 editorial) this dominance
> is mainly expressed in terms of willingness to attack the cops not ideas.
> probably because these people are not participants in the mainstream of
> exploitation.
> 
>> The Seattles and Pragues may be very visible in the media, but
>> hardly in the daily lives of people, not even among most of the few
>> who actually did participate. I would be more optimistic if more of
>> them were less enthusiastic about what they had accomplished.
>> Still I believe that these events may if we are lucky still open up >for
>> new and more direct (less symbolic) forms of resistance. With all
>> the talk about direct action, this is precisely what largely is >missing
>> today, in the old "developed world," at least.
> 
> Several articles about Quebec City have claimed that lots of local people
> participated in the riot not because they had previously worked out
> anti-capitalist ideas but for other reasons presumably more to do with their
> everyday lives. Perhaps one of these summit sieges might spark a city wide
> insurgency like LA in 92. And surely the unions don't try so hard to keep
> their members away from the 'action' for no reason, presumably they are
> worried they will take some of that anger back to their workplaces. And I
> think for the young radicals who travel so far to take part in these things
> they provide inspiration and the first experience of any sort of mass
> struggle in a time when there isn't much else in the way of visible struggle
> happening.
> 
> peter
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