From: "dave graham" <davgraham-AT-hotmail.com> Subject: Re: spontineity... Re: AUT: marxism vs. leninism Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2001 14:44:58 -0000 ----Original Message Follows---- From: cwright <cwright-AT-21stcentury.net> Reply-To: aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu To: aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu Subject: Re: spontineity... Re: AUT: marxism vs. leninism Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 22:04:15 -0500 Marx isn't talking about labor credits and certainly not a means of accounting in the context of the existing class relations. As I said, I'll post the exact points later with some commentary by Paresh Chattopadhyay. Cheers, Chris ----- Original Message ----- From: "info" <info-AT-j12.org> To: <aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu> Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 3:37 PM Subject: RE: spontineity... Re: AUT: marxism vs. leninism > Chris wrote: > > Well, Marx did have a discussion of this in his Critique of the Gotha > Program that is worth reading. A fellow I stumbled across, Paresh > Chattopadhyay, has written an excellent paper on the Critique that lays out > in a pretty careful way how Marx posed the elimination of wages as part and > parcel of eliminating the social relations of worker to capitalist, where > some sort of (this is gonna be crude) labor chits could be used, which > unlike wages, which hide the relation between labor and profit, would be > open and unfetishised, until we have reached a point at which any kind of > medium becomes irrelevant. If you want, i can e-mail you Paresh's piece. > > My response: > > Indeed there was an experiment in albour credits (under the auspices of the > British Government) in Sierra Leone, but it collapsed due to lack of > resources. > > Fabian > > > > --- from list aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- > --- from list aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- I seem to remember we have had a discussion long these lines before on this list. Is it archived? Gra _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. --- from list aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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