File spoon-archives/aut-op-sy.archive/aut-op-sy_2001/aut-op-sy.0107, message 148


From: "dave graham" <davgraham-AT-hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: spontineity... Re: AUT: marxism vs. leninism
Date: Sat, 07 Jul 2001 14:44:58 -0000





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From: cwright <cwright-AT-21stcentury.net>
Reply-To: aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
To: aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
Subject: Re: spontineity... Re: AUT: marxism vs. leninism
Date: Fri, 6 Jul 2001 22:04:15 -0500

Marx isn't talking about labor credits and certainly not a means of
accounting in the context of the existing class relations.  As I said, I'll
post the exact points later with some commentary by Paresh Chattopadhyay.

Cheers,
Chris
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From: "info" <info-AT-j12.org>
To: <aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, July 04, 2001 3:37 PM
Subject: RE: spontineity... Re: AUT: marxism vs. leninism


 > Chris wrote:
 >
 > Well, Marx did have a discussion of this in his Critique of the Gotha
 > Program that is worth reading.  A fellow I stumbled across, Paresh
 > Chattopadhyay, has written an excellent paper on the Critique that lays
out
 > in a pretty careful way how Marx posed the elimination of wages as part
and
 > parcel of eliminating the social relations of worker to capitalist, where
 > some sort of (this is gonna be crude) labor chits could be used, which
 > unlike wages, which hide the relation between labor and profit, would be
 > open and unfetishised, until we have reached a point at which any kind of
 > medium becomes irrelevant.  If you want, i can e-mail you Paresh's piece.
 >
 > My response:
 >
 > Indeed there was an experiment in albour credits (under the auspices of
the
 > British Government) in Sierra Leone, but it collapsed due to lack of
 > resources.
 >
 > Fabian
 >
 >
 >
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I seem to remember we have had a discussion long these lines before on this 
list.

Is it archived?

Gra

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