Date: Thu, 12 Jul 2001 20:43:32 -0700 From: Michael Pugliese <debsian-AT-pacbell.net> Subject: Re: Fw: [marxist] AUT: Re:gay-bashing Serb nationalists Feel free, of coarse, to directly engage, with any and all! The title of the thread started with Doug Henwood from lbo-talk. Michael Pugliese, promiscous forwarder ;-) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Jovanovic" <peterzoran-AT-hotmail.com> To: <aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2001 8:15 PM Subject: Re: Fw: [marxist] AUT: Re:gay-bashing Serb nationalists > hi all > > i'm having a bit of trouble following what's going on here but i gather > michael pugliese is forwarding stuff from this list to other lists and then > forwarding their replies to this list. > > > > Your correspondent seems to be saying that the overthrow of the > > > Milosevic regime did not destroy or seriously weaken the fascist > > > element in Serbian politics. That's probably because the fascist > > > element in Serbia is AUTONOMOUS of the SPS. > > i take it this brian chap is referring to me. and he is right i don't think > the SPS is fascist. more broadly i don't think it's terribly useful to > describe any government except the nazi german and fascist italian one as > fascist. and even then the distinguishing feature of fascist governments is > not their totalitarian behaviour which has been mirrored by many 'socialist' > and 'democratic' capitalist states. rather it is how they got into power, > namely through a mass movement separate from capital as such but acting in > the interest of capital. > > > > PS, here's a recent statement from the SPS, the so-called fascists. > > i never called the SPS fascists except perhaps by mistake. > > > > Seems like uniting against NATO is the key to progressive politics in > > > > the Balkans today. > > i couldn't give a fuck about progressive politics, progressives are just > another capitalist faction. however a movement against the NATO occupation > of Bosnia and Kosovo would probably offer the best chance of undoing some of > the ethnic hatred but unfortunately i couldn't see it coming too soon given > recent nationalist riots by Bosnian Serbs and Croats and the war in > Macedonia. > > > > MESSAGE TO THE ANTI-NATO RALLY IN THESSALONIKI > > > Dear comrades, > > > > > > The Socialist Party of Serbia is determined to lead the just > snip > > > > Head Committee of the Socialist Party of Serbia > > any struggle that accepts the SPS as an ally is doomed. > > to John: yes i was mistaken about the gay rights march in belgrade. > > peter > > _________________________________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. > > > > --- from list aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- --- from list aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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