From: "commie00" <commie00-AT-yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: AUT: what is communism? was Bad Faith
Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 14:00:20 -0400


> I read that appalling website posting from some
> people in the Black Block who wanted to expel all non-anarchists -
> revealing just how wrong Commie00 is about the Black Block just
> constituting a tactic. No doubt Commie00 has given them a stern piece of
> his mind about their manipulations . . .

did have to. most anarchists laughed this off, pointing out over and over
again that the black bloc is a german autonomist tactic which has been
adopted.

> Ps. As regards Commie00's previous posting about what was reactionary
about
> his defense of the Black block, I find it hard to deal with the mass of
> contradiction: one moment the Black block does not exist except as a
> tactic, the next moment Commie00 is posting what he describes as the Black
> Block statement.

or rather a statement from one section of the black bloc. the way you try to
essentialize these issues, to make believe there is a "contradiction" is
truely inspiring.

the black bloc is a tactic which has a physical manifestation at protests, a
statement from a section of the black bloc at such-and-such protest is a
statement by one or more affinity groups who participated in the black bloc.
there is no contradiction here.

"you keep using that word... i do not think it means what you think it
means." or: fabian, buy a frickin dictionary.

> One moment we are told that corner shop proprietors are
> part of the ruling class, the next moment Commie00 suggests that their
> property should not be attacked.

i said that the bloc as a whole should not attack it, but that locals may
have a reason to and we should respect that.

but my reasoning goes like this: small shop owners are so low in the ruling
class, for the most part, that many are often sympathetic to what we're
doing. this was in evidence in qubec when many small shops stayed open,
giving out their goods and services for free or at a very reduced price, as
a practical means of supporting the actions.

thus: it is silly to attack something that might be generally supportive of
what you're doing. again no contradiction.

> It is precisely the shifting in and out political positions which
> characterises the political manipulations so common amongst the so-called
> self-styled anti-aithoritarians. One moment the Black Block is a tactic,
> the next moment it has meeting with a delegate structure from a series of
> anarchist affinity groups who all read the same load of old bollocks drawn
> from a highly selective eurocentric list of anarchist writers. This is
what
> we get from "A Communique On Tactics And Organization To The Black Bloc,
> From Within The Black Bloc. (Second Amended Addition) *July 2001, From
> Somewhere in The Mid-west":

and this is precisely the bullshite i've come to expect from pretend
communists, who continually try to attack people they perceive as their
enemies for no apparent reason. you obviously have a big fucking chip on
your shoulder about "anarchists", and this undermines your ability to
criticise them.

case-in-point, you assume that when a group of anarchists make a statement,
such as the one you reference, that they are somehow speaking for all
anarchists or all people who participate in black blocs... when in reality
(you should visit sometime) most anarchists i have talk to about this
statement have been scratching their heads trying to figure out when the
"black bloc community" came about, and trying to figure out why a group of
anarchists would be such vanguardists, etc.

tho many agree that creating a coordinating body based on the
council-communist model that the suggestion is based on, is not such a
terrible idea. i, for one, think that creating a (instantly recallable)
tactical center to coordinate movement and activity is a likely good idea.
it has been used with success by revolutionary militias in russia (the
maknhovischina), spain and hungary. i see no reason why it wouldn't work
here.



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