From: "Rowan Wilson" <wilson_rowan-AT-hotmail.com> Subject: Re: AUT: Negri and Lenin Date: Wed, 08 Aug 2001 12:51:02 +0000 Hi Sean and all Here's the page ref.: Politics of Subversion, p.179-180. The quote is inevitably more nuanced than i was suggesting, but i think the broad point stands: "The so-called socialist societies are backward capitalist societies. In some of the socialist societies the processes of real subsumption has not yet been fully developed. There still exists a certain margin within which class struggle of a traditional kind can take place. Typical in this regard is the Polish case, and the comrades fighting there deserve our complete solidarity." I was going to ramble some more, but work calls, unfortunately Cheers Rowan >From: "Another Brick at the Gap" <satellitecrash-AT-yahoo.com> >Reply-To: aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu >To: aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu >Subject: Re: AUT: Negri and Lenin >Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 10:27:23 -0700 (PDT) > >Hello Rowan, >thanks for all this information. >if you can find the page number on the non-western >methods of organization please send it to me or the >list (i'll look for it as well). i remember that part >from negri i thought it was one of the oddest things i >have seen in any of his writing. if i remember >correctly he kind of admits most of his analysis only >applies to the advanced capitalist countries which he >knows is a problem, but he doesn't really fully >explain how to treat this problem. >in struggle, >-Sean > > > > > Further to this, in the Politics of Subversion > > (sorry, no page ref to hand, > > but it was the text written in prison with comrades, > > towards the back of the > > book) the argument is made that peoples whose > > political and social situation > > haven't developed to the level of the west may have > > to use older methods of > > struggle - does that include the Leninist party? I'm > > presuming that he's > > left this approach behind now. > > > > >====>"Will you silence our voices, with the force of your fists? >Why? Did we say to much!" > -Four Hundred Years- > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger >http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ > > > --- from list aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu --- _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp --- from list aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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