From: info <info-AT-j12.org>
Subject: AUT: RE: Re: Marxist-Leninist Autonomists?
Date: Sat, 4 Aug 2001 19:18:37 +0100



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From: "Jamal Hannah" <jah-AT-iww.org>
To: <aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>
Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2001 8:47 PM
Subject: AUT: Marxist-Leninist Autonomists?


> A translated message about the libertarian movement in Spain as it is
> today was recently posted to a-infos.  In the message there was this
> paragraph:
>
> "Although many of these movements or organizations call themselves
> autonomous (in the sense that they do not depend on political parties nor
> on trade unions), let us note that although a few "revolutionary
> tourists" have tried to transplant to Spain the authoritarian autonomous
> models (leninist or Toni Negri-ist) from Germany or Italy (in the 80s and
> 90s respectively), the libertarian autonomous culture is well rooted in
> Spain."
>
> I was wondering what the heck this person ment about "leninist
> autonomists", until I saw the message below... what is the deal with this?
>
> Why would leninists form autonomist groups instead of political parties?
> Isnt that going against Lenin's wishes?  Or are they just playing
> around in the "hip" movement, until the day comes when they can abandon
> it and become leaders in the government?
>
>  - JH
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2001 10:58:41 +0200
> From: Magnus Bernhardsen <magnus.bernhardsen-AT-nynorsk.no>
> Reply-To: leftist_trainspotters-AT-yahoogroups.com
> To: leftist_trainspotters-AT-yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [leftist trainspotters] ML-ist autonomists
>
> The autonomous movement is often characterized as anarchist, but there
> are several groups coming out of squatters/autonomous movements which are
> marxist-leninist of different sorts.
>
> In Denmark there is a maoist contigent in the autonomous milieu, also the
> RIM people in Germany, Revolutionre Kommunisten (BRD). in Germany there
> is a Buchladen Georgi Dimitroff and magazine called Radikal Brechen which
> I also think are connected to these milieus.
>
> In France there is the maoist group Noyaux Autonomes pour le Communisme,
> http://perso.magic.fr/nac/
> In Austria there is Komak, Kommunistische Aktion in Vienna komak.cjb.net
>
> These all seem to be "new organisations", as opposed to groups which are
> continuations of seventies groups supporting armed struggle in Europe.
>
> Does anyone have comments on this?
>
> Magnus
>

I thought one of the nicer things about autonomism is that it was getting away from anarchism and libertarianism?

Fabian



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