From: info <info-AT-j12.org> Subject: AUT: Anarchism? Really. Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2001 08:21:33 +0100 Commie00 wrote: > this is where the idea of communism as the movement of > the working class toward community is so important. it > is not an ideology that can spread. it is a movement, > a large, various contradictory movement, which we are > all apart of. we exist inside of it Jamal replied: That is exactly what anarchists believe. My response: This is certainly not what Proudhon advocated - he was anti-communist. There are still virulent proudhonists around like Larry Gambone who are more at home with the anarcho-fascists of Alternative Green than anything to do with communism. Jamal wrote: If you disagree with the Green Mountain Anarchist document, because of some aspect of it that may or may not exist, you should write to them and let them know. My response; This is extremely authoritarian. Why are you telling people what they should and should not do. [...] Jamal wrote: Hmmm. After writing this and thinking about it more, I realise how I have not been happy with the black bloc... it really isn't going to change a whole lot... and probably makes anarchists look bad to the people we want to reach out to (the poor.. though I haven't gone into the poor neighbourhoods and asked their opinions yet) I suspect that many poor people in America might not give a shit, but in other countries they probably think it is great, but they themselves are too scared of being arrested, beaten, or blacklisted to participate. (this makes sense) My response: Try popping over to Jamaica where 28 people were shot dead in one day . . . Fabian --- from list aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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