Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2001 20:39:28 +0200 (CEST)
From: Birgit Bock <birgit.bock-AT-student.uni-tuebingen.de>
Subject: Re: AUT: strategy



Commie that is right "discussion and debate are an important part of
political growth " , ,
Maybe all I was getting at is the fact that this notion of Empire being
put on this list and in your last post
And by default  Negri - Hardt,.  are a post Marxist in a number of ways,
which I like, don't get me wrong
But going through allot the post Marxist thinkers guy the bore,
hork-adorno, etc  (not Negri and Hardt) I keep feeling that the only thing
to do is ironically mimic the modernist gestures and stances of
revolutionaries who had authentic belief in their own actions and
projects. What I found wishy washy is the part in your post was the
inference that anti-imperialist states, Iraq, Yugoslavia, etc. are more or
less quantitatively no different than their the Empire with regards as to
how they treat their own citizens. I think it is true in someways that
Milo and Sadam are repressive in a number of ways (or allot) but still the
spirit of the people and the collective will positioned in a anti-empire
society and culture should not be underestimated in terms of the , since
in my view all states are, and have been repressive
but we still have to play into the idealism even if itis ironic

jeremiah

On Thu, 27 Sep 2001, commie00 wrote:

> Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2001 23:39:16 -0400
> From: commie00 <commie00-AT-yahoo.com>
> Reply-To: aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
> To: aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
> Subject: Re: AUT: strategy
>
> jeremiah
>
> why did you respond like this? i was trying to deal with what you said, and
> argued my point. its not like everyone here at aut-op-sy agrees with me. and
> i certainly wasn't trying to set up a "more liberated" position. i was
> simply disagreing with your view of things as i understood it, based on what
> you said.
>
> it seems to me that we should be critiquing one another's thoughts and
> ideas, not just letting them stand as "express[ed]"... discussion and debate
> are an important part of political growth i think.
>
> so, why don't we get back to the issues at hand and not get distracted by
> this sorta thing...
>
> how and why are my ideas "wishy-washy"... you didn't back this up with an
> argument, so i'm just kinda confused.
>
>
>
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