Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2001 13:04:41 +0200 (CEST) From: <cerclesocial-AT-altern.org> Subject: AUT: Re: Re: Why People Join Vanguard Organizations? Hi, I would answer in the same sense than Chris. I also was a member of some trotskists organizations in France, fron 1986 to 1992. When I was a teenager, I was interested in revolutionnary communism, and read some books (Marx, Trotsksy, Mao Zodong, Illich, Marcuse, ...). But the first "living" commies I encounter were members of the Revolutionnary Communist Youth (JCR ; Krivine / Bensaid tendency), and I entered the organization. It was sufficient for me to be a "real" revolutionnary. It was a good period, because two months after, there was the great 1986 students strike, with one-million people demos, so we tought it aw a prerevolutionnary period. I also encountered militants from Workers Struggle (Lutte Ouvrière), wich I discuted on theorical questions. It was very interesting, because in JCR , our fomration was very deficient. I also discuted with a lot of small groups : French Trotskists League (Spartacists), International Communist Current, etc. I finaly left JCR, who was supporting an ex-stalinian to presidentail elections, to integrate the Internationalist Communist Party (PCI ; Lambertist) in 1988. I was excluded in 1992 for leftism. I also encountered the anrcho-punk and staigth-edge movement an, were I had, as a "Redskin", a lot of friends. But this movement without theory and organization don't interested me in the same intellectual way than trotskism. Now, I'm more aware what point I'm influenced in my (anti-)political point of view by Anarcho-Punk and SxE. Why have joined a vanguardist organization ? First, because the first I met was one. And I know a lot of comardes who had the same situation. In the International Discussion Network, almost half people had the same... Why was it the first one ? Because they were active and visibles, with a romantic history, etc. But also, when I encountered Lambertist PCI, because they had a good theorical formation and can explain me the story of revolutions (very important, very striking), they can formulate cleraly the problems I was feeling inthe JCR (philo-stalinism, cloudly toughts, opportunism, etc.). They got answers. Third, because when you are a member of a vanguardist organization, you now you got the answer, you know you're the party that will lead working class to revolution (and others will all betray...)., you now that you need an organized force to win and that revolution is a party affair. And if you think the party is wrong - what we do every week in the student cell - you feel necessary to ameliorate the party or to leave it to create the real party.... But you alos live in the total dependency of the direction, of the political bureau. There's a problem ? Take the phone and ask the permanency BP member, or even Pierre Lambert himself, they got the solution. Once, in the student cell, we had a collective lough, when we received the new partyline consign : we should be no longer sectarian ! Everybody knew that sectarism was the lambertism essence and it could only be a joke... When I was excluded in 1992, I tried some things in students struggle, and battled with trade-unions and millitants. Then I was too much disgutted by political engagement than I do nothing from 1993 to 1999 . I was intelectually deconstructing Trotskism, finding all problems, discovering others toughts, etc. But I was always, as a junk, serachnig the New Party, the one I will agree on all the program. And there was none... In 1999, with my girlfriedn, we created Le Cercle social and evolved on anarchists / coucilists / situationnists ideas. It took 9 years to win over trotskism and vanguardism party. But I know, and some comrades joke me about this, that I conserve Trots attitudes in some ways, and that I'm for a long time as traumatized as a sect renegade... Nicolas --- from list aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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