From: "commie00" <commie00-AT-yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: AUT: Hardt interview (Historical Materialism)
Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2001 01:06:17 -0400


just a quick note... will respond to tahir and chris as soon as i have more
time...

but on "exodus"... i'm not sure negri and hardt would agreee, but i read
this as not being all together different that notions of working class
autonomy / dual power as a major part of the communist movement. that is
"exodus" can be understood as another word for the working class gradually
making itself autonomous from capitalism, and thus "exodus-ing"...




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From: "Thomas Seay" <entheogens-AT-yahoo.com>
To: "Sebastian Budgen" <sebastian-AT-amadeobordiga.u-net.com>;
<aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>
Sent: Wednesday, October 24, 2001 11:08 PM
Subject: Re: AUT: Hardt interview (Historical Materialism)


> Sebastian,
>
> I have already posed one question...if there is any
> room left for another I would like to have it asked.
>
> It is about "Exodus" as a form of revolt.
> It is clear how Exodus undermined the former
> East bloc, however all of those people deserted
> to the west and exploitation under a different
> form of oppression.  The same can be said of
> immigrants moving from "the South" to "the North".
> Given that Negri and Hardt
> themselves declare that there is no place to hide,
> where are we supposed to desert to?
>
> As for the anthropomorphic style of "exodus" it would
> seem to me that we would have to basically create
> bodies that did not need "commodities" in order for
> this type of resistance to work well.  That's not now
> possible...does Hardt have any clarification on this
> matter of anthropomorphic "exodus"?
>
> -Thomas
>
>
> ====> "The tradition of all the dead generations
>  weighs like a nightmare on the brain of the living"
>
> -Karl Marx
>
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