Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2001 21:27:13 +1000
From: Sergio Fiedler <s.fiedler-AT-unsw.edu.au>
Subject: Re: AUT: Why People Join Vanguard Organizations?


Andy,

I completely disagree with Richard. An my experience in the ISO is
completely different than his, but please address the political issues
he is raising for disucssion rather then attacking him personally for
something he wrote ages ago. I found your practice of keeping files on
what people have said in email lists extremely extremely problematical.

Cheers

Sergio

"-AT-ndy" wrote:

> Richard Bailey wrote:
>
>> That is the most patronising bullshit I have ever read.
>>
>> I am a member of a "Vanguardist organisation". I am the first to
>> admit that organisations like mine have been (and still are)
>> sectarian towards anarchist/autonomist groups/individuals. But
>> mirroring this sectarianism makes you no better.
>
> With individuals like Richard, who needs organisations? No, mirroring
> the sectarianism of the organisation to which you belong makes you no
> better Richard, a case in point being your support for my being kicked
> off the (Australian student) national_broadleft list a scant 10 months
> ago on the basis that you were "sick to death of the garbage they
> [meaning: anarchists and autonomists] send clogging up my e-mail". You
> even claimed that "I think we will have to scrap the NBL list and
> start a new one unless there is some mechanism for kicking ["idiots"
> such as myself] off".
>
> That is some of the most hypocritical bullshit I have ever read.
>
> -AT-ndy.
>
> PS. The attempt to kick me off - a unilateral action undertaken by one
> moderator without informing any other moderator / myself / the list
> itself, and for which no apology, reason or justification has been
> given, either then or now, and for which the person responsible has
> still not accepted responsibility, either privately or publicly - was
> unsuccessful, btw. Who knows, maybe Richard will have better luck on
> the aut-op-sy list? ;)



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