File spoon-archives/aut-op-sy.archive/aut-op-sy_2001/aut-op-sy.0110, message 264


Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2001 16:49:50 -0800 (PST)
From: Thomas Seay <entheogens-AT-yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: AUT: Re: Empire and oil



> > I was wondering what people think of Negri and
> Hardt's
> > argument about imperialist rivalries being
> replaced by
> > Empire in the light of the jockying and rivalries
> that
> > are playing out around the Caspian Sea oil.

There can be no doubt that there have been rivalries
between UNOCAL/US and Iran and Russia. Iran and Russia
want to run the pipelines from Turkmenistan,
kazakhastan, etc through their countries, while UNOCAL
has tried in the past to run the pipes through other
countries (and in this regard, even supported the
Taliban at one point when they wanted to run the pipes
through Afghansistan) I dont know that this instance
in itself would be enough
to discredit H&N's theory.  After all, they do say
that Empire is emerging and do not say that the
nation-state is dead yet...So Empire is ae emerging
trend...which is not to say that the nation-state does
not come out in defence of its domestic
companies...especially with something like oil on
which the industry of these countries depend.

Thomas
 


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