Date: Sun, 7 Oct 2001 03:27:36 +0100 (BST) From: =?iso-8859-1?q?Scott=20Hamilton?= <s_h_hamilton-AT-yahoo.com> Subject: Re: AUT: Re: Prude Leftists: Apollo vs Dionysus Fully agree with Thomas' sentiments. The sad thing really is that, as soon as we begin to analyse the anti-fun attitudes of so much of the left, we slip into a discourse which is as cold as the marble pillars in Appollo's temple! I'd be wary of the Situationist/sub-Marcusean responses to this problem, because they lean for justification on the vanguardism rejected by almost everyone on this list. Why take the trouble to "reconstruct relations so that they are joyous and liberating" when there is plenty of joy and liberation in most lives outside the miltantist left - in what we might rather crudely label 'popular culture'? It seems to me that the lifestylist programmes advanced by the likes of SI involved a complete rejection of the lifestyles popular in Western society. Poor old Joe and Josephine Bloggs and their 2.5 children were seen as hopelessly enslaved by consumerism, and needed to be completely re-oriented. There are interesting parrallels between this attitude to pop culture and the attitude of the 'Proletcult' writers who wanted to create a completely original literature in post-revolution Russia, a group which argued that all pre-existing Rusian literature was reactionary and outmoded, and had to be replaced by styles and forms which would read like they had fallen from the sky. Proletcult did not, of course, consider culture as an evolving phenomenon, full of contradictions and complexity. A more materialist approach could see the framework for a post-revolutionary literature in the work of the very writers proletcult considered obsolete. In the same way, a materialist understanding of modern pop culture ought to be able to pick its positive from its neagtive aspects, to celebrate the positive and spurn the negative. See you all at the Houhora Tavern for the darts comp tonight :) Cheers Scott ====For "a ruthless criticism of every existing idea": THR-AT-LL, NZ's class struggle anarchist paper http://www.freespeech.org/thrall/ THIRD EYE, a Kiwi lib left project, at http://www.geocities.com/the_third_eye_website/ and 'REVOLUTION' magazine, a Frankfurt-Christchurch production, http://cantua.canterbury.ac.nz/%7Ejho32/ ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free -AT-yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free -AT-yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie --- from list aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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