From: "Neil (practical history)" <practicalhistory-AT-hotmail.com> Subject: Re: AUT: Theory in search of practice? Date: Mon, 01 Oct 2001 09:44:59 +0000 Scott In London a 'No War but the Class War' group has been set up which is critical of both 'anti-imperialism' and liberal pro-United Nations mainstream peace politics. Similar groups existed during the Gulf War 1990/91 (and again during the Kosovo conflict). Activities were mostly of the propagandist kind (leaflets, banners etc.) although during the Gulf War there was a NWBTCW picket of an oil company. The most useful thing to come out of this activity was links with revolutionaries from the Middle East with a similar perspective, and the circulation of information about the class struggle in Iraq and elsewhere. I am critical of some aspects of NWBTCW - as a slogan I don't think we should be defining our activity as a form of war - but the basic principle that the proletariat has no interest in fighting in wars seems fairly basic and reflects the actual practice of working class people asked to fight by their bosses in anti-imperialist wars. While you call for a victory to the Taliban's national liberation struggle, thousands of people are leaving Kabul to avoid being conscripted, an action that can only undermine the war effort. Do you think they should stay and fight? During the Iran-Iraq war, the english Socialist Workers Party called on workers in Iran not to strike because Iran were fighting the imperialist client state of Iraq. A few years later trotskyists were calling for 'Victory to Iraq'. Meanwhile in both Iran and Iraq the working class was responding with mass desertion, strikes, riots and uprisings. You seem to equate a 'No War but the Class War' position with 'ultra leftism', a notion you 'blackbox' in precisely the way you accuse others of treating 'anti-imperialism'. For me it is simply a matter of recognising and responding to actual autonomous struggles in all parts of the world. Neil Practical History www.geocities.com/pract_history _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp --- from list aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu ---
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