Date: Mon, 15 Oct 2001 16:00:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: for a new world <satellitecrash-AT-yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: AUT: Can We Throw The Vanguardists Out?


Hey Thomas,
I agree, this group is really frightening, but they
seem to have financial resources behind them that most
other left groups do not... I can't see their ideology
gaining much support from either peaceniks or
globalization protesters (or the pro-globalization
left i should say)though; what i have seen of their
activities is that they put the money into to
organizing buses, rallies, and take part in coalitions
organizing conferences but not many ppl seem to really
gravitate to their ideology... and they don't really
forward their ideology in public to much (even in
their paper there's limited discussion of it!) prolly
b/c they know not many folks are down, i'm not sure
when they hope to build their party but they don't act
like the typical vanguard group that fetishizes
constructing a worker's party... i think even a lot of
the members of their sect have been duped into joining
the group for their supposed support of women's
rights, gay rights, and anti-racism, but i think it's
pretty clear from history that a stalinist group is
not serious or not able to deal with these concerns. 

if a discussion developes i can probably say more but
that's all i have for now.
in struggle,
-Sean

p.s. i saw one of iac's drones on fox's hannnity and
colmbs (sp?) not to far after the bombing, quite
disturbing that this group is being paraded around as
representing the left, but then again the far left
opinion doesn't even get represented in so called
alternative media, but i guess it's a start...


--- Thomas Seay <entheogens-AT-yahoo.com> wrote:
> Here in the San Francisco Bay Area and apparently
> other parts of the United States, it would appear
> that the anti-war movement is being led by
> the Workers World Party through their front
> movements
> such the International Action Center and ANSWER.
> 
> This group seems unable to navigate the complex
> waters
> that now confront the movement.  They are quite good
> at saying what we are against..US agression, etc,
> but
> are unable to address the question of how we should
> balance people's understandable desire for security
> with the need to combat infringements on civil
> liberties.  
> 
> It also seems that if some alternative to capitalism
> is not raised within the context of this movement,
> it
> is likely to descend into cynicism.  What
> alternative
> does Workers World provide....North Korea (NO
> THANKS!)
> 
> Quite frankly, I would like to get these people out
> of
> the leadership of the movement and would like to
> discuss how to go about doing this.  I am not
> suggesting that another vanguardist group would be
> better...I just think we need to get rid of this
> dead weight that seems to me to be blocking the
> path...in order to open the movement up to something
> new.
> 
> What do you think?
> 
> Thomas
> 
> 
> ====> "The tradition of all the dead generations
>  weighs like a nightmare on the brain of the living"
> 
> -Karl Marx
> 
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