Date: Fri, 30 Nov 2001 18:16:50 +0100 (CET)
From: Birgit Bock <birgit.bock-AT-student.uni-tuebingen.de>
Subject: Re: AUT: Re: Re: General Strike in Serbia


Hey Mich, your starting to sound like Madeleine Albright. Why do we have
have hate the tyrants our governments tells us to, and ignore others we
support?

On Thu, 29 Nov 2001, Michael Pugliese wrote:

> Date: Thu, 29 Nov 2001 17:10:40 -0800
> From: Michael Pugliese <debsian-AT-pacbell.net>
> Reply-To: aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
> To: aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
> Cc: prfw-AT-yahoogroups.com
> Subject: AUT: Re: Re: General Strike in Serbia
>
>    Heh, Mac you never give up do 'ya! ;-) The upper ranks of the SPS and
> esp. the JUL were full of what Polish workers in 1968 and 1970 (see an
> article in New Left Review at the time by a member of the Mandelite USFI, if
> I recall correctly), called the Red Bourgeoisie. Massive corruption.
>    One day you'll get the balance right between the more than justified
> crotique of the IMF and WB and read up on the devastation brought to the
> former Yugoslavia by Milosevicite war and repression, aided and abetted by
> the far rightists, V. Seslj, who Milosevic called his favorite "opposition"
> politician. Try any of these books, "The Break Up of Yugoslavia, " by Branka
> Magas, Verso Books. "The Politics of Serbia in the 90's, " Robert Thomas,
> Columbia Univ. Press. "The Road To War In Serbia, " edited by Nebojsa Popov,
> CEU Press, 2000, translated from Serbo-Croatian edition of 1996. "Kosovo:
> War and Revenge, " by Tim Judah, Yale Univ. Press. Milosevic and Markovic: A
> Lust for Power
> Slavoljub Djukic,Alex Dubinsky (Translator) / Hardcover / McGill-Queens
> University Press / July 2001
> Serpent in the Bosom: The Rise and Fall of the Slobodan Milosevic
> Lenard J. Cohen / Hardcover / Westview Press / November 2000
> Balkan Babel: The Disintegration of Yugoslavia from the Death of Tito to the
> Fall of Milosevic (4th Edition)
> Not Yet Released.
> Sabrina P. Ramet / Paperback / Westview
> Slobodan Milosevic and the Destruction of Yugoslavia
> Not Yet Released.
> L. Sell / Hardcover / Duke University Press / February 2002
> Our Price: $27.96
> http://csf.colorado.edu/pen-l/2001II/msg04114.html
> Michael Pugliese
> Click the URL's esp. for the great aufheben piece> etnicizing NATOsevic by
> Harald Beyer-Arneson, I think.
> Michael Pugliese
>
> >funny how one can easily disconnect nationalism from economy.
>
> jc helary
>
> http://www.ainfos.ca/99/may/ainfos00083.html
> (en) The BALKAN WAR and leftist apologetics for the Milosovic regime
> >From Harald Beyer-Arnesen <haraldba-AT-online.no>
> Date Tue, 11 May 1999 15:05:43 -0400
> http://www.idea.org.uk/cfront/texts/other/kosovo-subjectivities-en.html
> (Kosov-AT- - Contradictions and Subjectivities
> (Ethnicizing Social Conflicts - The Example of Yugoslavia - With an Updated
> Annex). Available online at
> <http://www.nadir.org/nadir/archiv/Internationalismus/jugoslawien/materialie
> n_06/>, updated annex at
> <http://www.humanrights.de/antikrieg/texte/antii_d.htm>.
> http://www.google.com/search?q=Ethnicizing+and+Natosevic+&btnG=Google+Search
>
> http://csf.colorado.edu/pen-l/apr99/msg02975.html
> http://www.webcom.com/wildcat/Yugoslavia.html
> http://www.hrc.wmin.ac.uk/guest/radical/ESBOSNIA.HTM
> Bosnia and the poison of nationalism
> http://jefferson.village.virginia.edu/~spoons/Aut_html/Auf1edit.htm
> http://lists.village.virginia.edu/~spoons/aut_html/Aufheben/yugo.html
> Class Decomposition In The New World Order:
>
> Yugoslavia Unravelled
>
> (1) Introduction
>
> Whilst there have been numerous wars around the globe over the last
> forty-eight years, Europe has seen only the mundane brutality of everyday
> capitalist social relations. But once again the spectre of war haunts the
> proletarians of the continent. The former republics of Yugoslavia have
> lurched into a bitter cycle of war, and the images of the suffering provide
> a terrifying reminder of the capacity of the working class to carve itself
> up along national lines. Are we heading for a major European war? Will the
> events of the past couple of years in Yugoslavia be repeated throughout
> Eastern Europe? An analysis of the conflict is clearly imperative.
>
> Such an analysis is made more difficult however both by our separation from
> the events, leading to a lack of information from 'below', and by the
> endless stream of depressing details on the conflict in the media making any
> attempt to keep abreast of events into a desensitising test of endurance. So
> this article will be limited to an attempt to simplify the conflict by
> grasping the material roots of the nationalist tensions.
>
> The first problem lies with deciding where to start. A possible starting
> point would be the formation of the first (monarchist) Yugoslavia after WW1,
> as the internal migration of Serbs under the Serb-dominated regime (to be
> followed by a similar migratory flow after WW2) helped produce the ethnic
> mish-mash with which we are now familiar. Another possibility is WW2 and the
> genocide perpetrated by the Ustashe which helps explain the fear of
> persecution so characteristic of current Serbian nationalist ideology.
>
> Neither of these starting points seem to provide the best means of
> unravelling the conflict however, as the Socialist Republic of Yugoslavia
> did hold together for well over forty years despite its ethnic diversity and
> the experiences of WW2. Instead, the focus of the analysis has to be the
> 1974 Constitution, which appears to be a pivotal moment in the shaping of
> Socialist Yugoslavia; so, to begin with, we have to examine the factors
> which gave rise to it.
>
> (2) Class Recomposition.
> <snip>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Macdonald Stainsby" <mstainsby-AT-tao.ca>
> To: <aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 3:56 PM
> Subject: AUT: Re: General Strike in Serbia
>
>
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Peter Jovanovic" <peterzoran-AT-hotmail.com>
> > To: <aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu>
> > Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2001 10:01 PM
> > Subject: AUT: General Strike in Serbia
> >
> >
> > > Wednesday, 17 October, 2001, 15:01 GMT 16:01 UK
> > >
> > > Serbs protest against labour law
> > >
> > > Several thousand people across Serbia have taken
> > > part in demonstrations against a draft labour law that
> > > would freeze pay in state-owned companies.
> > > In the capital, Belgrade, up to 5,000 people attended a
> > > rally at the main government building.
> > *snip*
> >
> > you mean they are protesting the austerity brought about by the overthrow
> of the
> > Socialist Party of Serbia? Hmmm...
> >
> > Macdonald
> >
> >
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