From: Louis Proyect <lnp3-AT-panix.com>
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2002 13:42:36 -0500
Subject: Re: AUT: Is the ruling class pushing Cuba towards market capitalism?


On Sun, 3 Mar 2002 13:37:15 -0500, commie00 wrote:
>of course this is based entirely on the
>assumption that there is some kind of
>functioning bourgeois democracy in cuba that
>keeps the "c"p in power.

Hi, commie00. Haven't you been promoted to 01 yet? By the way, do you 
pronounce your name "Commie-Zero-Zero" or "Commie-Oh-Oh". Chuck "Oh" 
Munson got really made at me when I called him zero.

>and of course there is a ruling class in cuba in
>marxist terms, but i learned long ago, louis,
>that its pointless to discuss anything with you
>and your dogmatically thick skull.

It would help if you knew something about the social reality of Cuba. 
Marx spent countless hours in the London library studying the history 
of how England's bourgeoisie emerged (see chapters 26-32 of V. 1 of 
Capital). Why go through all this trouble if you prefer tautologies:

1. Under communism, there are no classes.

2. There is no communism in Cuba, therefore there is a ruling class.

When you peddle empty formulae like this, there is no need to dirty 
your hands with income stratification or land ownership figures.

>tho i have missed you, much like i missed having
>a punching bag...

We have never really had a discussion nor a debate, as far as I can 
remember. Mostly, you seem content to tell people that you are a true 
communist. Only I know your secret, that you manage a Starbucks when 
you are not posting here.


-- 
Louis Proyect, lnp3-AT-panix.com on 03/03/2002

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