Date: Fri, 8 Mar 2002 12:38:27 -0800 (PST)
From: Saul Marsh <saulmail-AT-yahoo.com>
Subject: AUT: Imperialism = main contradiction?


Bravo, Macdonald.  You're obviously a decent person.   Now, could you
explain in a nutshell how imperialism and not capitalism is the main
contradiction?

Saul

--- Macdonald Stainsby <mstainsby-AT-tao.ca> wrote:
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Louis Proyect" <lnp3-AT-panix.com>
> 
> >  For some
> > reason, this aut-op-sys mailing list operates on the basis that
> you
> > have to be bought into the whole Negri/Deleuze scene to be
> treated
> > with respect. This is crap, in my opinion.
> 
> It's also false. I've been very blunt here with the fact that I'm a
> Leninist
> (even been called the resident Stalinist on the list, always a
> badge I wear with
> honour, whether dealing with Autonomists, Trotskyists, Anarchists,
> etc...
> Stalinist means your line can't be beaten in normal discourse.
> 
> But I digress from that. The reason I haven't been called every
> name in the
> book, from what I can tell, is simple. I stated at the beginning of
> my sub that
> I was a Leninist but recognised this list ain't- so I asked for
> courtesey since
> I am a guest in their house, Lou.
> 
> Also, if one doesn't recognise that autonomist and anarchist
> approachesd to
> building a movement are working immensely better than Leninism re:
> the
> "anti-globalisation" movement, and that the WEF (which Lou louded
> as a "great
> leap forward") protests were almost completely irrelevant to now.
> What the best
> step *forward* for radicalism is in the wake of 9-11 I do not
> propose to know,
> but I am certain that neither do the reformist Leninists.
> 
> I am dying for a movement that can understand that countries like
> Cuba are worth
> defending, even singing homage to! but that the "Castroists" here
> are full of
> reformist garbage that will get us nowhere. The radical movement in
> North
> America will get nowhere until A) no one is willing to subordinate
> themselves to
> the sell-outs in the hierarcy of "official" labour, and B) they can
> actually
> tell that labels of capitalist (etc) for anti-imperialism serves
> imperialism-
> that imperialism is the main contradiction.
> 
> However, in the current situation, young and/or new radicals should
> do one
> thing: Ignore the paper pushers looking to make a career serving
> John Sweeney
> and the other guardians of capital in workers garb. These turncoats
> (though they
> never turned- they were always bourgeois) have systematically set
> up the radical
> anti-capitalist contingents of the AG movements to take the brunt
> of the
> violence of the state in exchange for "bargaining position"
> (Sweeney has been
> doing this since Seattle `99) such as a meeting with Bill Clinton.
> 
> Old "Leninist" (Lenin had way more guts than this, making his mark
> slaying the
> cowardice of labour leaders in the face of Czarist Russia) strategy
> has been a
> miserable failure. There simply must come a synthesis between the
> attractive
> pole of the new movement- pro-activity and resistance demonstrated
> to give hope-
> and the need for defensive manouevers in the light of the new
> political
> situation of the day. I have not the answer. Attacking my comrades
> in this
> movement, however, is not even the question- unless one is
> personally satisfied
> with being "correct" rather than, well, relevant...
> 
> Macdonald
> 
> 
> 
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