From: "dave graham" <davgraham-AT-hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: AUT: enclosure of geocities
Date: Mon, 04 Mar 2002 08:21:00 +0000




Hi all

This could be a general move as the hot money that backed these companies is 
now pulling out or seeking real shareholder value.

Altavista is doing the same and no longer even offers free e-mail.

How long before Bill's front does the same?

I can only ask if maybe we could run an area on a co-op /cover costs basis?

Gra

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From: bobandsally <bobandsally-AT-ntlworld.com>
Reply-To: aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
To: aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
Subject: Re: AUT: enclosure of geocities
Date: Sun, 03 Mar 2002 18:25:45 +0000

I've had just the same problem with the Subversion site.  Don't know what
to do about it yet.  Any suggestions?
Bob
At 19:59 01/03/02 +0000, you wrote:

>One of the effects of the downturn in IT/new media/etc is that
>Yahoo! are trying to make their business generate more money
>more quickly. They had to drop their plan to move into porn
>almost as soon as they announced it due to the 'public outcry',
>but are trying various other means. Previoulsy Yahoo! gave away
>free webspace, on the basis that they could sell advertising.
>But website advertising has been shown to be ineffective, and in
>any case, spending on advertising has decreased in general in
>the current economic climate.
>
>Its been a long time coming but Yahoo! are now trying to force
>money out of people with free geocities websites. eg me. I got a
>mail last week saying that the antagonism site had been
>temporarily shut down as it had exceeded its 2 gigabit per month
>bandwidth allowance (as if!), and this week they have removed
>FTP access and, like wanna be gangstas, are now offering to sell
>it back at a price. One major provider, 'another.com' has
>already simply started to charge for a previously free web mail
>service.
>
>So two questions.
>
>1 Has there been any comeback to Yahoo! about this? Eg protests
>of some sort or anything. (I doubt it but...)
>
>2 Are there any places still offering free webspace that are
>likely to remain doing so and provide a good enough service to
>make it worth the hassle of moving?
>
>If you're looking for free webspace or free webmail, yahoo! is
>probably no longer a good place to look for.
>
>steve
>
>ps. Ignore the Yahoo! advertising that the gits apend to all my
>mails.
>
>
>====>Antagonism
>web: http://www.geocities.com/antagonism1
>email: antagonism1-AT-yahoo.com
>mail: Antagonism, BM Makhno, London WC1N 3XX, UK
>
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