Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 10:34:21 +0200
From: Ilan Shalif <gshalif-AT-netvision.net.il>
Subject: Re: AUT: Perplexing Ilan


Hi People
I think I took lately too slice of the list band-width.
However I find my self obliged to share the clearest
way the lesson I learned from 50 years of activity and
learning since I started with Capital I.

Thiago Oppermann wrote:

> On 3/12/02 11:05 AM, "Nate Holdren" <nateholdren-AT-hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hi Ilan,
> > I agree with your comment below that "Achievements of struggles at the
> > present are worth the efforts ONLY if they do not contradict the long term
> > struggle for the libertarian communist revolution." This makes sense. We
> > don't want to be struggling to strengthen the oppressors of tomorrow.
>
> I am curious how you establish who the oppressors of tomorrow are.

It is easy to predict when you understand class society and the dynamics of
blocking of the free-from-authority access of working people to means of production.

> How do we know the trajectory of long-term struggle?

If humans were not able to predict long-range trajectory - the rockets
would not have reached the moon and the stars.

> Has someone worked this out?

About 57 years ago the scientists have already found the dynamics of
authoritarianism in Humans. (You can even measure it quite easily
with the appropriate scale.)

> Is there a blueprint somewhere I can check to see which struggles to support
> today and which ones to oppose?

People with authoritarian tendencies are searching for "blueprints".
More flexible people find it more contributing to have a good theory
with application principles.

> Not even Marx, the arch-teleologist, did this, as Carrol pointed out.

If the new born children were conditioned walking on a clear
blueprint for walking... we were all of us reptile.
Ilan




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