From: "Nate Holdren" <nateholdren-AT-hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: AUT: Advancing the Anti Imperialist Discussion
Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 10:41:04 -0500


Scott-
that sounds interesting to me, though I don't know how much I could 
contribute about Zimbabwe.

I'd also like to hear your response to points raised by Commie and Harald 
about the relationship between your political involvement and your 
analytical framework that you call "anti-imperialism".
I wouldn't call myself a Negrian, but I do find Negri basically convincing 
that what we face now is not Imperialism but something else (Empire, i 
guess, but I think that term sounds a little silly.) That said, it may be 
the case that the imposition of an imperialist power doesn't look all that 
different on the ground from the imposition of Imperial power.
One difference that it might make, though, is that for an anti-imperialist 
presumably national liberation is its own end, whereas for people who don't 
think imperialism is the main contradiction anymore it may be the case that 
national liberation is the best of all the likely political options, none of 
which are very good. Like with Palestine, I support the struggle for a 
Palestinian state. If that struggle's won though struggle isn't over and in 
fact certain elements of the capitalist class may also support Palestinian 
statehood.

I don't know, I haven't really thought too much about some of this. Picking 
a concrete example may well be useful to this, though like I said, I know 
nothing and couldn't add much about Zimbabwe.


>From: Scott Hamilton <s_h_hamilton-AT-yahoo.com>
>Reply-To: aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>To: aut-op-sy-AT-lists.village.virginia.edu
>Subject: AUT: Advancing the Anti Imperialist Discussion
>Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2002 10:51:30 +0000 (GMT)
>
>
>Why don't we concretise this discussion by picking one
>currently-important country and applying the various
>theories of imperialism and post-imperialism to its
>history and current life?
>
>I suggest Zimbabwe as a candidate for such a
>discussion. We could ask questions like what was the
>right attitude to take to the national liberation
>struggle there, why did Mugabe come to power, what has
>determined his policies, what is the relationship
>between Zimbabwe and the advanced industrial
>countries, what is the nature of the opposition
>movement, and what would it take to make a revolution
>in the country? We could find out what each theory has
>to say to these questions.
>
>What do people think? If people are enthusiastic, do
>they have any good links to information on Zimbabwe?
>
>Cheers
>Scott
>
>====>"Revolution is not like cricket, not even one day cricket"
>
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