Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 08:49:50 +0900
Subject: Re: AUT: capitalist cuba?
From: miychi <miyachi9-AT-gctv.ne.jp>


On 2002.03.13 09:56 PM, "Martin Werner Hauge" <whauge51-AT-hotmail.com> wrote:

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> Miychi wrote: About Cuba, and ex-USSR, or current China, I think, they can
> be defined as transitional state rather communism nor capitalism.
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> We traditionally were thought that capitalism and communism are opposite
> each other and between them nothing exists. But in reality and theory, we
> can imagine transitional state between them, where class struggle continues
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> ...  So Questioning whether Cuba is capitalist or socialist country is
> sterile. Marx himself clearly recognized such transitional state. In
> reality, In Cuba socialistic element and capitalistic elements both exists.
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> My comment: What exactly is this sokalled socialist element?
> And while I agree that Cuba is a country in transition, is'nt the transition
> more from feudal relations of productions towards capitalist and a mixture
> of these and *something other* which is oppressive and state-ist, not
> socialist?
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> Martin
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> I agree with you
In pre-revolution Cuba, feudal elements remained largely
But in contrary of traditional marxist, I argue transitional state exist
from capitalist society to socialist society. Marx himself point out in "
critique of the Gotha Programmes" there are revolutionary transition period
toward communism.



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