From: "Martin Werner Hauge" <whauge51-AT-hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: AUT: capitalist cuba?
Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2002 15:32:17 +0000



Myachi answers:
I agree, In pre-revolution Cuba, feudal elements remained largely
But in contrary of traditional marxist, I argue transitional state exist
from capitalist society to socialist society. Marx himself point out in 
"critique of the Gotha Programmes" there are revolutionary transition period 
toward communism.


My answer:
I think that the transition is not FROM capitalist TO socialist society. 
This is especially clear after 1989 when traditional, pure capitalistic 
relations becomes stronger and stronger in all the so-called socialist 
states. (see the capitalist sones in China for instance, enter WTO and so 
on)

If in pre-revolution Cuba, as you say, feudal elements remained largely, (I 
do'nt kwow how strong these were then, BUT I SUPPOSE that the REALTIONS OF 
PRODUCTION and ideological habits as cult of leadership were partly feudal 
and partly capitalist), then if you believe that the new, read: post-rev 
Cuba, arised from this, and was born in the wombs of the old society, as 
Marx terms transition, then Cuba was in the years after revolution (now it 
is more pure capitalistic) characterised by remnants of feudal habits and 
some so-called collective aspirations from above.

If you take Mao's China, it also came out of the wombs of a more or less 
feudal countryside. HENCE the EXTREME GODLIKE cult of MAO-personality. Old 
ideas do'nt disappear so quickly, even Mao fought feudal ideology 
(konfutschean ideas) and transformed relations of production in the 
countryside.

By the way, Mr. Prosjekt and Tahir, I did'nt say that the cuban STATE was 
feudalist, only that Cubas revolution was in transition from a society which 
was not yet fully developed capitalist. So much for the schemata.

Martin

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